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  1. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Freeza's not going around in FP all the time and Goku is probably factoring in KKx10, which Vegeta isn't aware he can pull off.
  2. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Vegeta knows Freeza's power is in another league just from sensing it and knows he can further transform. Or Freeza was just suppressing and isn't going around walking around in FP all the time. We know any power below 480K-500K or so can't break the newer model Scouters since Goku activating...
  3. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    So it's just speculation. Ginyu seemed to be able to locate Freeza's location through his Scouter when he arrived at the spaceship twice. Considering Freeza's last subordinates were already dead in the manga (Appule and Zarbon), they had to have read Freeza's BP.
  4. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Was it ever stated everybody in his army knew his PL? He seems to keep a lot of secrets from his henchmen judging by Zarbon being the only one to know he can transform. And how do you explain Scouters not breaking every time Freeza gets near someone using a Scouter? Scouters don't seem to be...
  5. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Maybe it's a bigger one that they have at the ship, like in that filler where they read 100% 4th form Freeza and SSJ Goku. We know portable Scouters never read his power since Vegeta was slightly weaker when he broke Freeza's Scouter. That's why I think Freeza was already suppressing himself in...
  6. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Nobody ever read Freeza's power on a Scouter (the Scouter would break anyway since Vegeta broke it), he just knows his FP in 1st form is 530,000. He even referred to it has his full power in this scene, rather than saying he'd pull his punches...
  7. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Gohan and Kuririn are pansies!
  8. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    It's just bad writing. Not even non-suppression users seem to walk around with their full ki all the time, but the difference seems to be that a Scouter can pick up when you're actively using ki control to suppress your strength while doing whatever Nappa and Earth Vegeta did doesn't lower your...
  9. Papasmurf

    If Piccolo would've decided to train on Rosat as opposed of fusing w/Kami?

    17 doesn't wank enough with his right hand so it's lacking in muscular strength
  10. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Freeza's seems to be straight suppression and power ups considering he openly said to Nail that he won't use full power to fight him. Also Piccolo said his Ki grew larger. And I don't think ki sensors can tell the difference between suppression and not using all of one's ki like Nappa the way...
  11. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    I'm referring to this scene. Considering Freeza already did power ups in his last form which both the three in front of Freeza and Piccolo noted, this should come as no surprise. The dialogue should've said Vegeta was surprised he still had more power to show.
  12. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Vegeta acted like it was the first time he'd seen Freeza change his power level. It's as contradictory as it gets considering Freeza did a power up in front of everyone in 1st form already.
  13. Papasmurf

    Ki blast amp discusssion thread

    Toriyama later forgot that he already showed Freeza can adjust his power level prior to going 2nd form so that's likely. Although Goku's KHH against Nappa was a quick, uncharged one at point blank range so Vegeta might not have seen what the beam was like.
  14. Papasmurf

    We are currently ahead of DBZF's pace.

    All that's left of DBZF now is their Discord and some Tapatalk pages
  15. Papasmurf

    If Piccolo would've decided to train on Rosat as opposed of fusing w/Kami?

    I wonder if it was the terrain or the fact that they can't detect his Ki that made him nigh uncatchable even though he's one shot material to Vegeta.
  16. Papasmurf

    DBGT Color Palette

    Dolltaki was the only redeeming thing about GT.
  17. Papasmurf

    Ask Kenshi

    Cake, beef, chicken, black bean noodles, bone broth soup. I have no idea. Around 6 if I had to guess. Probably 4 or 5 19 16 23 11 teens
  18. Papasmurf

    How Does King Cold Create New Entities?

    AT never named the race nor expounded upon how they reproduce before he died.
  19. Papasmurf

    Dragon Ball Daima

    That being said I already lost interest in Daima last week and haven't bothered to watch this week's episode.
  20. Papasmurf

    Dragon Ball Daima

    I mean fusion almost never works (even the one instance where it won a fight, Gogeta's blast missed due to the Dragon Balls), so having it actually finish the enemy isn't that bad.
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