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  1. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    The official guide statements on the fusion multiplier is: Matamoru = Power X Power Potara = Battle Power X Battle Power So it would be Goku x Vegeta. That doesn't really have much predictive power though, as the numbers used can be up to interpretation. A minimal estimate however can be used...
  2. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    @Dagon What's your reasoning?
  3. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Probably not. It can be taken to be implied in the original text with the following: There are other guide statements for that though, calling Goku and Vegeta the "strongest combination": Daizenshuu 7: DB Forever: El Manga Legendario makes a direct comparison of Vegetto and the Potara...
  4. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    I recall Vegetto still beating the crap out of Buuhan after he stated he would go all out.
  5. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Yes, there are anime guides for it: Son Gokuu Densetsu: Dragon Ball Kyogen 2: DBZ Dragon Box Fact File 46: Movie 12 Anime Comic: Son Gokuu Densetsu: Some of them are not specific about if it's base or Super Vegetto, but others are.
  6. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Mostly. One source is from the Daizenshuu (which concerns the manga), and another from DB Forever (also manga).
  7. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    Sorry for late reply. Base RoF Goku/Freeza > BoG Godku
  8. Cirno777

    1st Form Freeza must be > Vegetto

    I disagree, Base Vegetto being equal to or greater than Buuhan is supported by many guides. And I'm not seeing your logic with 1st Form Freeza, do you mind breaking this down?
  9. Cirno777

    Gotenks At Face Value Numbers

    What's the reason for SSJ2 being 5x SSJ, and SSJ3 being 75x SSJ2?
  10. Cirno777

    My fav character is Nuts, I think that's his name.

    My fav character is Nuts, I think that's his name.
  11. Cirno777

    Gotenks At Face Value Numbers

    What's the problem? Big numbers go boom
  12. Cirno777

    Strongest Movie Villain? (M1-M13)

    Yeah, I think I'll concede on the Goku > Ultimate Gohan thing, I can't find anything to confirm the events of the movie happen after that point.
  13. Cirno777

    Strongest Movie Villain? (M1-M13)

    "In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie." -Takao Koyama, Noppo no Zakkan (his blog)...
  14. Cirno777

    Strongest Movie Villain? (M1-M13)

    @GreatSaiyaman123 What feats does Hirudegains have that are more impressive than Janenba? Shaking the afterlife all the way up to the higher dimension of the Kaiou realm is about as good as it gets in any of the movies. rn I'm thinking, if Goku from M12 isn't far off from Buu Saga Goku, then...
  15. Cirno777

    Strongest Movie Villain? (M1-M13)

    I'd go with Broly because of the creators insistence on it. I used to have Hirudegan > Janenba but I'm not entirely sure any more.
  16. Cirno777

    Man Turns Super Saiyan

    5:00 best part
  17. Cirno777

    Favourite Dragon Ball Series Intros

    My fav was always we gotta power, but makafushigi and genkai x toppa are probably 2nd and 3rd.
  18. Cirno777

    Favourite Dragon Ball Series Intros

    yes, i'm smalltime boobtuber lana rhodes, maybe you've heard of me?
  19. Cirno777

    Stuff from the DB Official site (+ Toyotarou interviews)

    Some of the things I've screenshotted watching interviews from DBO. Initial Granola ~ Abo/Kado (so somewhere around 1st form Freeza from Z): Explanation of UE and UI: Toyotarou implemented SSJBE to match what the anime did (maybe Manga SSJBE = 20x Blue like the anime?): Goku, Vegeta and...
  20. Cirno777

    Gap between 3rd Form Freeza/Initial 4th Form Freeza

    I have initial 4th form freeza at just under 3m, so like 2-3x.

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