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  1. Cirno777

    How strong are fused attacks (like the Final-Kamehameha etc)?

    Hmm? Why wouldn't blast amplification exist beyond the Saiyan Saga? You mean it exists in the Saiyan Saga, but disappears after? If you disregard blast amplification, then I guess it'd be at least equal to the Final Flash, going by "All right! Let's put as much strength into it as we can and...
  2. Cirno777

    How strong are fused attacks (like the Final-Kamehameha etc)?

    Personally I just multiply the multiplier of both attacks with eachother, so Kamehameha (2.22x) & Final Flash (I have as a 6.66x multiplier) = 14.7852. That's basically headcanon though, so I was wondering if anyone has any method for actually quantifying these fused attacks.
  3. Cirno777

    2023 DBZeta Fitness Challenge

    That's awesome brother, definitely keep us posted! Also, 6'7"? You should be balling.
  4. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Sorry for the super late reply, I was traveling, & had to get settled in also. Vegetto told him that he needs to sense his Ki, if Boo wasn't able to sense because he was angry, I feel like he'd tell him to calm down instead giving him a lecture. Also, do you actually think Boohan's...
  5. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Being enraged doesn't stop you from sensing Ki. If Vegetto isn't outputting his full power, how do you expect anyone to sense it? It's suppression. So do you think he knows how strong Gogeta/Gohaku & tried to stop it because he's weaker, or does he thinks he's stronger & is being cocky? He...
  6. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Him having to be told to sense Ki is evidence that he wasn't sensing prior, it's simple. Yeah, Boo couldn't tell Vegetto was holding back, but how is that relevant? Why don't you also read what he is actually saying as well, just because he's trying to stop it doesn't mean he thinks he'd lose...
  7. Cirno777

    Who Is Your Favorite New DBS Villain?

    I guess so, he definitely doesn't feel guilty or doubtful about his actions, in fact, he thinks they're for the sake of justice. I guess that's counts as pure.
  8. Cirno777

    GreatSaiyaman123’s 2023 Power Level List

    Yeah, I use the full multipliers (50, 100, 400), & DBS really goes crazy. As another example, personally I've got Base Vegetto at 320,000x Goku, SSJ-God Goku > SSJ3 Vegetto, so that's like 128,000,000x. SSJ-Blue is 6,400,000,000x, Gogeta was at least that strong in base, so SSJ Gogeta (FP...
  9. Cirno777

    Who Is Your Favorite New DBS Villain?

    Fun fact, Zamasu is also pure hearted, weirdly enough. You can see it in this scene: The tea reflects the heart of the one who made it, once Zamasu decides on his path, the tea clears up.
  10. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    If he has to be told to sense Vegetto's Ki, then he obviously wasn't sensing Vegetto's Ki before that, what more do you want? How is Goku & Cell relevant? That's different from literally sensing Ki, Goku had to surmise it, it's a martial artist thing, not any bum can do that. I'm convinced...
  11. Cirno777

    The Word "Saiyan" Was Literally Conjured Up From The Word "Vegetable?"

    I'd say it's a more interesting or fun way to name characters, it's now my favourite way to name characters, I just go into my kitchen & pick items on the counter & in the cupboards & inside the fridge at random.
  12. Cirno777

    Who Is Your Favorite New DBS Villain?

    I like Goku Black & Zamasu the most, I really identify with them on an emo level bro
  13. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    I'm not sure what you're trying to get at there, he was literally not sensing Vegetto's ki, what does him relying on his eyes all the time have to do with anything? It's just one reason why Boo isn't super reliable. Yep, my point with that was that Boo wouldn't be able to accurately gauge...
  14. Cirno777

    GreatSaiyaman123’s 2023 Power Level List

    Piccolo certainly didn't have the same hope as the others for base Gotenks, though, he can still be > Majin Vegeta I guess.
  15. Cirno777

    GreatSaiyaman123’s 2023 Power Level List

    Why do you think fusions have different SSJ multipliers? I've seen that idea floating around but never knew how one would arrive at that conclusion.
  16. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Yeah, he's not the most reliable source, but his word counts for SOMETHING imo. He also tends not to sense energy in battle, even though he clearly can (he sensed Gohan, & sensed Vegeta when he arrived on Earth for example), which I think is why he was unimpressed with Vegetto (who wasn't even...
  17. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Vegetto > Gokuhan > Gogeta ~ Gohaku, is what I'd have. It could be that Gohaku > Gogeta, since Goku can fuse as an SSJ3 with a supressed Gohan, maybe? idk.
  18. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    I definitely think Gohaku would beat Boohan, but only in at least SSJ1 or 2. I'd say a rival boost would be counter intuitive for a fusion based on perfect mirroring & syncing. Like, if anything, there'd be a compatibility boost, like if Goku & Gohan fused or something. Likely not, the reason...
  19. Cirno777

    Trying to quantify Vegetto compared to Gogeta (Boo Saga).

    Okay, I'm just going to throw some shit at the wall & see what sticks, this probably won't be structured very well, tell me if any of this is nonsense. You know, it's pretty funny that after, what, 28 years? That people still talk about this shit. Oh well. Remember: Gohaku = Fusion of Goku &...
  20. Cirno777

    Base Vegeta (Boo Saga) Vs SSJ Goku (Post Yardrat)

    I'm certain Boo Saga Vegeta wins easily, but what's the argument for Post RoSaT? I'm assuming you mean Vegeta vs 2nd form Cell.

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