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Vegeta > Kid Gohan isn't bad assuming you have Kid Gohan's top power surpassing Vegeta by a large margin. The only caveat is Vegeta insisting that him and Goku surpassed Gohan because he hadn't been training.

Yes. I don't believe Kid Gohan ever got a rage boost. I'm trying to minimize the difference between the kids and the adults the best I can but it's clear that Base Adults > Kaioshin > Piccolo > Base Kids ~ Android 18 makes that very difficult. Super implies that the Kids are fairly close to the...

Why is Weakened Goku at a 75?

Because from a narrative standpoint, the Boys competing with the Adults to some degree wouldn't make any sense if they were meant to be significantly weaker in the first place. This is probably the closest I could probably have it but it's tough since Super established that the kids are at...

No. The Kids can't legitimately be 49x weaker than the Adults. I sincerely doubt that this is what you got when SSJ Goten sparred with Pre-Budokai Gohan or when Trunks landed a blow on a tired Vegeta. The narrative doesn't back you up here. You're just straight-up being biased.

If you make the Boys piss weak, then sure. The Base Kids were evidently on par with Android 18 and yet the Base Adults surpass Kaioshin. To make it so that the Boys aren't that far from the Adults, you're going to have to minimize the gains that Piccolo made.

It's a mess. Maybe Piccolo became 1.33x stronger from the RoSaT and that's enough to be a completely different person.

I found the post if you want to take a look: https://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2389469-final-nail-for-piccolo/4.htm Get back to me if you have any questions.

If you forego the Daizenshuu figures, then sure.

Nah. Trunks was explicitly stated to be not that different from Gohan. In contrast, Trunks has hope after fighting Goku. Goku's should be a bit larger.

I seriously don't understand your point. Gohan is apprehensive about exposing himself and yet the thought about Super Saiyan never crosses his mind which means it has to be alluding to something else. During his entire High School experience, Gohan frets over exposing his superhuman abilities...

@GreatSaiyaman123 Gohan was never thinking about Super Saiyan until Kibito explicitly asks him to do it. Gohan's concerns have to do with exposing his superhuman abilities. That's why he questions if he could win by "accident". I've made a post about this back on neoseeker but I don't even...

He's at least 1.5x stronger than Mecha Frieza. The dude literally one-shot him.

Vegeta had Super Saiyan 2.

I personally have Grade 2 Vegeta's gap over Semi Perfect Cell greater because he tanked FP Semi Cell's attack but realistically, it could be the same. Trunks can one-shot Mecha Frieza without using his full power. It's uncertain whether or not Vegeta could do the same to Cell but Cell is just...

He can't be at a 100 if Vegeta is at a 90-95. Goku's Super Saiyan 2 Burst on Yakon hadn't surpassed Kid Gohan yet and it was still greater than Vegeta's power. Goku should be at a 110 as a bare minimum. Goku: ~Burst: 100 ~Full Power: 110 Kid Gohan: 105 Vegeta: 90

I thought the "tens of times" stronger statement was just a figurative way of saying that Super Saiyan 2 Goku was much stronger.

Okay. God forbid someone misgenders an anonymous person over the internet. I'm sure that hasn't happened before lmao.

I wasn't trying to call you out on your pronouns. I do it by instinct to almost every internet persona.

So your points are so retarded and incomprehensible that no one can understand them?