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Videl survived Broli, but was shirtless scared if a dinosaur.

Daiz can be argued. But definitely not Cacao. Amond gives the vibe of the strongest. He seems to be second in command. Daiz never fought Goku. He helped Cacao after Goku attacked him and they fought as a team.

That's in universe answer. The movie clearly depicts a the strongest fighting the strongest. Why would Cacao fight Yamcha? Amond fought Krillin who was probably the dtrongest Earthling at that time. Also, Amond gives the vibe of the strongest. Standing in the middle and the only one who fights...

The pamphlet corrected the power levels of Daiz and Cacao. Daiz is the one with a battle power of 13,000. Cacao fought Yamcha who is weaker than Krillin and Tenshinhan. It makes no sense for him being the strongest. If anything, the movie gives the vibe that Amond is the strongest. No, it's not...

Movie 3 pamphlet added. By far the most controversial pamphlet. Oozaru Gohan is just 3x Gohan? Cacao is the strongest man of Tullece? Gohan is weaker than Rakasei but won because of the Masenko? Nani? This pamphlet contradicts itself and the movie too. It also tells some stuff that aren't shown...

Why should games even count? They contradict the series. Tenkaichi Budokai and other games also protray Gohan as a SSjin vs Broli in movie 10. I am about to finish translating movie 3 pamphlet. By far the most controversial one.

Which makes the Super Anime even more retarded. The scaling is just way off. This is non Canon bullshit of TOEI like the Z anime.

Yo. What do you think of guidebooks information such as in the Daizenshuu and other guides? Are they reliable and set in stone? Or can be some contradicting stuff to the Manga?

Umad troll?

I was talking about SSjin 3. I have both SSjin 2 and SSjin 3 as a 4x boost.

4x is perfect. Unlike 2x for SSjin 2.

Piccolo post Kaio-sama's training (6 days) ~ full power : 250,000 post Nail assimilation ~ with weights : 1,360,000 ~ full power : 1,700,000 Son Gohan post Recoome fight zenkai ~ normal : 200,000 ~ enraged : 950,000 post 2nd form Freeza beatdown zenkai ~ normal : 600,000 ~ enraged : 2,350,000...

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I have Goku at 6,500,000 when he fought Freeza. 3,000,000 makes no sense.

as strong as he was when he was beating Vegeta. Final Form Freeza (raised speed) ~ Goku > Vegeta >\~ Initial Final Form Freeza

150/130 makes sense. Not too far and not too close.

Yamcha and Krillin would have to be stronger than Goku from 3 years ago. However, the later conversation seems to suggest Taopaipai was still a big deal, and it sounds like Chiaotzu wouldn't be stronger than him. The way it's discussed, it's implied Taopaipai is not far behind Tsuru-sennin or Roshi.

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