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Doflamingo beat Law easily, which I’d argue the latter could beat the calamities one on one. Even Marco could hold both of them off. I’m sorry but there is no scenario where Doffy would lose to Kappa... neither would he force Luffy to use G4.

You disrespected the shit out of Doffy lol.

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I put the Calamities that low with how disappointing their fighting power are.

Maybe. There a lot of instances where Doflamingo could have used Parasite against Luffy and Law but didn't. Perhaps a certain amount of Haki is required to use the ability, but that implies Jozu is inferior to G4 Luffy and Law...

The only thing I'm unsure about is how Doflamingo compares. He was able to easily stop Jozu in his tracks.

I see some people put Marco on this pedestal because he was portrayed as being competent against the Admirals in a one on one fight. I don't see how it's any different to Vista being able to hang with Mihawk or Jozu against Aokiji.

It's not unreasonable to say Marco, Jozu, and Vista are all similar right? I don't remember if it's ever explicitly said he was WB's top commander. It's possible all 3 excel in different areas. Jozu - Strength Marco - Regen Vista - Skill

@Super Saiyan How do you think Zoro would fare against Vista?

Id think you can accurately compare OP world to real life. Franky’s cyborg body is far beyond anything modern society can do. Oda can pretty much go crazy with his ideas by combing elements like Sci Fi with ancient fantasy. Sort of like DB.

Maybe in the beginning of Wano he’d be at most equal. The thing is that we haven’t seen Level 3 against opponents other than Kaido from my knowledge. Maybe the damage would be extremely high towards closely powered opponents, idk.

The relationship seems similar to Gon and Ging. The father cares about him but believe that their own goals in life are more important. They believe that their sons can overcome any obstacle without their guidance because they share the same blood. If he found out Luffy was about to be executed...

My logic is that Luffy's victory over Katakuri was more so a psychological factor than simply overpowering him. That's where we disagree on, in that Luffy hasn't surpassed Katakuri back in WCI. I do agree that Luffy would overpower him after Udon in a fight.

Agree to disagree I guess. How do you think would win between Kid and Zoro? Also where would Killer be?

The members power encompasses a pretty wide range. Sulong Dogstorm and Catviper are pretty well Yonko Commander level while someone like Kinemon is more comparable to Brook.

I thought CoO can only see the intent of living beings and aura.

@Super Saiyan When Zoro starts hearing the breath of all things during Alabasta against Mr.1, is that related to the Voice of all Thins that Luffy and Momo can hear?

How far can FS allow you to see?

No really. If you have much higher speed it pretty much cancels out FS as we see with Kaido. Even when Katakuri and Luffy fought it was essentially just a regular back and forth.