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Zoro but with extreme diff.

Is King Kong Gun needed?

Absolutely not. Unless Sanji has something under his sleeve that he hasn't shown.

FWI I do agree that Zoro would defeat Act 1 G4 Luffy (50/50 chance even Rooftop Luffy as well) I think your viewing Kaido's durability the wrong way. His scales are what makes him durable, but different methods can allow someone to hurt him. It wasn't because of Luffy's physical power that he...

Dude it’s said that literally every single bone in his body is broken. If anything it’s more so an endurance feat rather than a durability one. Logically he shouldn’t be able to walk. These characters can unleash their FP attacks regardless of their condition.

Sheer willpower. This isn't anything new in One Piece, you should know this by now. Go read the end of Luffy vs Rob Lucci again.

Both parties have access to all abilities (G4, Asura, ect.

Yeah it's plot armor. Luffy didn't improve his physical stats after Udon, it was mainly advanced Haki training. It's a huge stretch to say Law has more durability than G4 Luffy after just a week of preparation.

No dude. Unless you believe he magically became that powerful for no reason then sure.

But you mentioned G4 Luffy getting one shotted by Kaido. Law took that same attack (from a Hybrid Kaido no less) and was still standing.

I mean Law also took a Haoshoku infused attack from Kaido and was still conscious. It really just depends on the plot.

I mean Zoro and Luffy just have different fighting styles. Zoro is more cutting and Luffy is more about blunt force damage. It's possible that Zoro could have done more damage against Kaido with his Flying Dragon Blaze more than G4 Luffy's King Kong Gun for example due to the nature of the...

If it hit than it would cause damage, sure. Actually killing him is a different matter which I don't believe is really suggested. If you believe that then you'll have to admit that Base Zoro would beat G4 Luffy. I agree that Kaido's pure dragon form seems to be the weakest and was off-guard...

He basically did a similar feat against Pica. I'm not saying Zoro is as strong as the Scabbard 9 I'm just going by the damage he caused against Kaido. Fact of the matter is that Zoro's attack against Kaido while in Asura was his maximum potential at that point, which only gave him a scar. He...

No it wasn't. His strongest attack (Asura) wasn't even capable of knocking Kaido off his feet. Generally speaking his feats pre Asura aren't much more impressive than what the 9 Scabbards accomplished.

I say this because it's noted that while Advanced CoA can hurt Kaido, it can't seriously damage him (leave a permanent scar). The only attacks that do this were seen from Oden and Zoro, and potentially Luffy right now. Luffy says in 1010 that his Internal Destruction Haki was still too shoddy...

This really reminds you of just how fucking unexplained Haki is as a concept. Btw, Oden used ACoC against Kaido to leave that scar on him right?

He's really only on that level while in Asura. Even if he lands an attack Marco would quickly just heal from it. Zoro loses imo.

Worth noting that Kaido’s club seemingly doesn’t have the “not touching” effect that Luffy and Roger seem to have when using ACoC.

So what's the difference when you use it on your sword?