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  1. Natasha Romanoff

    Natasha Future Trunks' History Manga Power Levels

    Hard to tell as is difficult to gauge his strength, everything is shown is his sparring match with Gohan being a SSJ, but that is similar to base Goten throwing rocks to SSJ Gohan in the Buu Saga. As he is qualified enough to transform into SSJ (which he gotta have a tremendous power level), I...
  2. Natasha Romanoff

    Base Gogeta vs. Ikari Broly

    Considering how Gotenks worked and how in the movie is portrayed, it is pretty much the case that: Base Gotenks > SSJ Goten & Kid Trunks Base Gogeta > Blue Goku & Vegeta Ikari Broly was slightly weaker than Blue Goku and Freeza needed to kill Paragus so Broly can triumph over Blue Goku, so...
  3. Natasha Romanoff

    Why didn't Super Buu attemped to destroy himself with Vegetto like he did with Gohan?

    The gap wasn't big enough so Vegetto could react and avoid to not be turned into chocolate.
  4. Natasha Romanoff

    Why was Power-Weighted Cell so weak?

    Low stamina, not thinking correctly, lack of speed are factors that pretty much makes appear the gap bigger than it is. In regular conditions, I don't think, it'd be that unfair for Cell, but the lack of speed kills the usefulness that transformation can have.
  5. Natasha Romanoff

    Why didn't Super Buu attemped to destroy himself with Vegetto like he did with Gohan?

    Vegetto told Buu that he only had one option, but that's not the case (which consisted on absorbing him after all of his tricks didn't worked): However, even though, he tried many techniques he didn't tried the fake Self Destruction like he did with Gohan. This technique makes Gohan himself...
  6. Natasha Romanoff

    Natasha Future Trunks' History Manga Power Levels

    SSJ Future Trunks (initial): 155.000.000 SSJ Future Gohan (initial): 159.900.000 Future Android 17 (1st fight): 172.200.000 SSJ Future Gohan (zenkai): 196.800.000 Future Android 17 (half of his power): 246.000.000 Future Android 17 (FP): 492.000.000 SSJ Future Trunks: 177.120.000 Future...
  7. Natasha Romanoff

    Natasha's Super Hero & Broly Power Levels DBS

    I personally consider that Golden Freeza vs Broly lasting 1 hour is a gag to make time so Gogeta can appear and it's not a valid feat. I go with Gohan being pissweak during Super Hero, but his Ultimate surpassed everything he was previously before of that. As for Cell Max, I think it make more...
  8. Natasha Romanoff

    Natasha's DBS FNF ~ TOP arc bp

    @GreatSaiyaman123 I don't think Goku kept permanently the power of SSJG after BoG in SSJ, with too many contradictions that Toei made in the anime makes this notion as something quite difficult to keep up with. As for Piccolo, I think he's quite a problem as he came from being tanked and...
  9. Natasha Romanoff

    Natasha's DBS FNF ~ TOP arc bp

    This list is made based on this (giving continuation to it): https://dbzeta.net/threads/natashas-dbs-bog-power-levels-list-2023.23950/ Things that I consider PIS such as Trunks Genki Sword or Final Form Freeza vs Dyspo wouldn't be included. Also characters that are unquantifiable either such as...
  10. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    Based on? You're overanalyzing and going in circles of something which is not remotely implied. To be fair, he also appeared to be serious when attacking Goku after the Kaioken x20, but that's far from the 50% exent of his power, because otherwise, Goku would be dead. I'm not completely...
  11. Natasha Romanoff

    Gohan vs Cell gaps assuming SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier

    Tbf, that interpretation doesn't seem quite logical, Cell has seen many and distinct power ups in all of his stance ever since he appeared, why would he make specifically mention of Gohan's one? Cell didn't show all of his speed against Goku, he did it with Gohan, though. Cell only increased...
  12. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    It is never stated that his ki increased greater than in previous occasions.
  13. Natasha Romanoff

    My Cell Games & Buu Saga non fused Saiyans list if SSJ2 is a 2x boost

    @GreatSaiyaman123 It happened before 50% Freeza vs Kaioken x10 Goku, but after Goku vs No Hands Freeza. I just don't agree it exists a rage boost for SSJ2 as the rage is product of the transformation itself, but Vegeta's statement as well as Goku make it looks like much more believable...
  14. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    That's just the drama effect. Also, time is variable in DB, not because something lasts more time in real world it means it last more in DB universe.
  15. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    Is this when Vegeta can no longer keep up with Freeza and then Freeza with a single kick can push back a full-forced attack from him which make emphasis and is an scene that depicts on how Freeza is a monster?
  16. Natasha Romanoff

    My Cell Games & Buu Saga non fused Saiyans list if SSJ2 is a 2x boost

    Well, outside from CG Gohan and Buu Saga Goku, I think our gaps are around the same. I can compare Majin Vegeta's superiority over CG Gohan around as the same as Pre Rosat Vegeta over Goku. Piccolo was doubting the result of Base Goku vs Freeza on Namek due to how similar they were on power, so...
  17. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    @Hector Well, if we take into account all the forms of Freeza and his relevant rivals, it'd go like this imo: Vegeta: 427.500 Freeza 1st form: 530.000 Freeza 2nd form: 1.060.000 ~1st power up: 1.100.000 ~2nd power up: 1.200.000 Piccolo Weighted: 1.150.000 ~Piccolo without weight clothes...
  18. Natasha Romanoff

    Goku, Vegeta and Freeza's PL ignoring the Daizenshuu

    Vegeta: 4.275.000 Goku ~Initial: 4.500.000 ~Full effort: 4.750.000 ~Kaioken x10: 47.500.000 ~Kaioken x20: 95.000.000 ~Genkidama: 118.750.000 ~SSJ: 237.500.000 4th form Freeza ~Initial: 4.240.000 ~Raised speed: 4.400.000 ~Warming up: 4.500.000 ~No hands: 4.800.000 ~50% of his power: 114.000.000...
  19. Natasha Romanoff

    My Cell Games & Buu Saga non fused Saiyans list if SSJ2 is a 2x boost

    For you to know how I would drive the gaps if SSJ2 was a 2x multiplier on the Gohan vs Cell fight, I would give you my list: https://dbzeta.net/threads/gohan-vs-cell-gaps-assuming-ssj2-is-a-2x-multiplier.23995/ Cell Games: Cell Games Trunks: 57 Cell Games Vegeta: 60 Cell Games Goku: 75...
  20. Natasha Romanoff

    Gohan vs Cell gaps assuming SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier

    @ahill1 I think your arguments are pretty well elaborated and you purpose a very good list of characters can compare with each other. The only thing I might disagree is CG Goku in relation to CG Gohan, I think CG Goku can be 75% of Gohan (on equal forms) which would make possible for Goku to...
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