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I actually have SPC at 94% of SSJ2 Gohan, but I'm trying a different way in which it could work. I just can't imagine Perfect Cell (vs Gohan) being weaker than SSJ Gohan.

@GreatSaiyaman123 How do you get this statement about Cell powering up like Son Gohan, then? I do also disagree that Cell's form obtains saiyans-type increase as the Buff/Giant forms used against Trunks & Gohan weren't noticeably ahead of his prior levels. Of course, FP PC is far ahead of...

The story seems to have PC (vs Gohan) a tiny amount stronger than SSJ Gohan, due to how he speedblitzed him. Something which is impossible even assuming that SPC doubled his power as Cell would end up being stronger than Gohan as a SSJ2. The other standard I can think up is that Cell doubled...

It's basically impossible for SSJ2 to be a 2x multiplier, but I managed to make numbers regarding Gohan vs Cell following this route. PC (vs Gohan): 98 FP PC: 120 Buffed: 150 SPC: 196 SSJ Gohan: 100 SSJ2 Gohan: 200 A justification that can be make about Cell (vs Gohan) against SSJ Gohan can...

Of course, people that think that he is far ahead of Piccolo would obviously disagree, but at least, I'm doubtful of that position. For me, I can think that in between Pre Rosat SSJ Trunks and him are the weakest ones that can one-shot him (assuming that he knew Freeza's potential in depth).

Who wins? Obviously talking about the Piccolo that arrived to Namek. Let's assume that Piccolo is reckless and reject Nail's offer going straight to the battlefield. Vegeta and him decide to fight Freeza, while lefting Gohan and Krillin as spectators. Freeza is not allowed to transform.

@GreatSaiyaman123 They could just be making an statement based on SSJ3 Goku's performance against both, that statement could have been retconed and that's why it was eliminated. We don't know anything about Goku and Paikuhan vs Broly, but Goku could've been studying Broly's style which would...

@Warmmedown Hatchiyack was stated twice to be stronger than Broly in the OVA. He was defeated because the Z Fighters takes advantage of him charging his attack for too much time. Also Broly tanking a Kamehameha from Goku doesn't mean much because it's clearly different than the Kamehameha that...

Tbf, those kind of debates sometimes seems more like people arguing in bad faith vs regular minded/non biased people. And this is the same over again and again, it hardly can be considered a debate.

So, an old Toei website (which is page eliminated) takes more precedent than more 10 years of how he wrote Broly? That's an interesting take on here. @GreatSaiyaman123

I also think the same. A long time ago it was hard for me to believe that Broly was the most powerful or that he was so strong (far before I ever joined these forums), but with the passing of time I became convinced that this is so. Everything that Broly demonstrates and that does not fit with...

In the anime. I really don't like the manga as a whole.

Yes. The problem is that the Goku Black saga is full of PIS and is quite difficult to work with numbers, although I'm working on those ones as of now. Super Hero and Broly would be appart, though.

That's the interpretation that makes the most sense, Vegeta is clearly implied to be the same as when he died by Fat Buu's hands.

Tbf, Koyama began saying that Gohan Buu was the strongest Buu and then agreed with Kid Buu being the strongest one after people were not about to concede and were insisting on that notion so far. Hatchiyack ~ Perfect Cell seems solid as he is only stronger than M8 Broly, Broly has many time to...

Goku: 42.750.000.000 ~SSJ: 2.137.500.000.000 ~SSJ2: 6.412.500.000.000 ~SSJ3: 25.650.000.000.000 Vegeta: 42.750.000.000 ~SSJ: 2.137.500.000.000 ~SSJ2: 6.412.500.000.000 Ultimate Gohan: 23.439.300.000.000 Buu: 1.496.250.000.000 Goten 950.000.000 SSj 47.500.000.000 Trunks 950.000.000 SSj...

Never suggested to be the case, specially when Goku acknowledges that if Vegeta couldn't beat the androids he couldn't beat them, either. Chapter: 365 (DBZ 171), P14.3 Context: when asked if he’ll fight the androids Goku: “Don’t worry…I won’t fight them yet…After all, if even Vegeta couldn’t...

All of them gets stomped if Gohan is bloodlusted, Cell that is the one that have the most vast arsenal of techniques got overwhelmed real quickly. Hatchiyack let his guard off while charging an attack, Broly is almost equal to Perfect Cell at most and Bojack is only equal to that Cell. Also, we...

@Hector It's equally possible, problem is, how Vegeta realized that every time is outclassed by Goku and how Goku came out always on top of him. But Vegeta made that realization after realizing how his strength was below Goku's all the time, but he couldn't tell. As for Old Kaioshin, Goku...

I forget about this image, my bad: