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Kid Buu wasn't taking seriously Goku and Vegeta's plan of SSJ3, and was actually mocking both of the saiyans: Unlike with the Genkidama, in which he clearly shows signs of being worried and concerned: Kid Buu wasn't able to stop the Genkidama initially, meaning that whatever level of effort...

But, what is more eligible, selecting a Fusion that could result into a failure (Goku doesn't even know at this point wheter Vegeta has seen Fusion Dance in Afterlife or not, only that he has seen SSJ3) or permanently fuse and have an assured guarantee of victory (also Vegeta didn't knew that...

Are you talking about SSJ Gogeta or Gogeta in general (including his SSJ3)? Even then, Gogeta showed little to nothing to put a limit to his power... he's weaker than Vegetto, because Potara is implied to be superior than Fusion Dance in the conversation between Goku and Old Kaioshin.

At a point in which he had little to no time and that not even going to Kaioshin Realm would save them from Buu...? How is this supposed to make sense?

How...? We never got to see Gogeta's full extent of capabilities, quantify from a "fight" that wasn't even close of being one, seems absurd.

Even then, during the fight, Goku seems to be willing to kill Vegeta, also words such as "destroy" are used to describe the situation: On top of that, the Genkidama seems to be implied just to be 50% of that: Chapter: 237 (DBZ 43), P1.3, 3.6 Context: after giving Kuririn the Genkidama Goku...

Showing signs of effort or screaming doesn't equate to not be able to hold back, SSJ2 Kid Gohan showed signs of effort while firing the Kamehameha towards Perfect Cell: Even then, Gotenks seems to recover quite rapidly, this in relation to how in another instances, characters kept the...

Yes, he did. This is before the fight even began: Chapter: 493 (DBZ 299), P12.2-4 Boo: "Huh? Did you change a little bit?" Gotenks: "Idii-iiot! I'm not making a big fuss over just 'a little bit'! I've become incredibly, incredibly, incree~eedibly strong!" Except that the gap between SSJ Goku...

No, Goku is talking about SSj Blue in the preview he never refers mainly to the new form or transformation with power that even exceeds/surpass God, as he never made mention of those, he is talking about its power in general. Yes, Goku was suppressed, but that doesn't indicate that he isn't...

Thing is... that Buu has been shown to be able to be take damage by attacks of characters that were way weaker than him, so it isn't something impossible for Goku to achieve that. When it comes to Super Buu, he also got destroyed by SSJ Gotenks' technique, just shows how vulnerable he is, on top...

Gotenks was able to take Super Buu's blast with the mouth and just took superficial damage whereas he did the same and was able to push him back, once he went serious he gave him a beatdown similar to Gohan's (during the whole fight Gotenks was provokating him). Gotenks' power was compared to...

But that is just in Buu's mind. Perhaps the gap between SSJ3 Gotenks and himself wasn't that big for Super Buu to realize that Gotenks was stronger than him, unlike Gohan.

I don't know why he has to be stronger than what he previously was. The most that is implied is him being below Perfect Cell, which doesn't speak much.

Gotenks definitely wins, not only he showed to be superior in the fight, but him & Vegetto were the only ones capable of making him mental unstable and his power was compared to Gohan, it's also worth mentioning that Gohan himself didn't have any issue letting him defeat Super Buu. Most of the...

If anything, the ones who were in disadvantage were Goku & Vegeta in this case, doesn't matter much as Goku stated that they would lose if they get outside. Even then, in this instance, Goku didn't manage to damage him at all on his body. Considering prior cases such as Dabura or Majin Vegeta...

I think Janemba can defeat whatever level Kid Buu was using against SSJ3 Goku and that it would be a pretty good and entertaining fight, though. Kid Buu seems to be implied to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku when he was using the Genkidama, so I don't know how he could fare against him on that one.

No, it happened in both medias: The reason why Goku couldn't is due to his size being limited.

Well, Buu has actually mocked SSJ3 Gotenks & afterwards he did it with Vegetto, despite being fairly outmatched. Gohan was the only clear exception of this, even though, he felt in need to measure his capabilities beforehand. Gotenks Buu also believed that not even SSJ3 Goku could make a single...

You are losing the notion in this, I was referring to the SSj Blue mainly, it was said to be his new power that surpass the SSj God. Goku since BoG can access to SSj God, wheter it would be limited or not that's a different issue. Even then, it's on you to prove that Goku was suppressed rather...

Do you think one of the reasons on why those attacks failed is due to just collecting a little bit of genki? Or just to show how extremely durable they were? Goku and Kaiosama both assured that the Genkidama would kill Vegeta, but it ended failing on killing an heavily injured Vegeta, even...