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He wasn't reckless for 13 years. Why would he be reckless now? 1 arm Gohan is hardly rational, he's driven by an indication he is stronger no doubt, but he should wait for Trunks to catch up. He's driven by the deaths of the civilians. 2 Arm Gohan is rational.

Sick Goku never came close to displaying Goku's full power. Tien's shock at Goku's power is just that Sick Goku is so far above Yardrat Goku, it's impressive. GSM has a good theory, in essence, Gero has a diminishing return on top end powers where he's reading numbers that are inaccurate. The...

Yeah, I don't buy it. No one can truly damage the Buu's other than another Buu. I think Super Buu is totally playing it up. He knows he needs Gotenks power later, it's completely within his incentive structure to let Gotenks get over on his so his confidence leads him to fusing again. Yeah...

Yeah, Mecha Freeza Vegeta directly impacts Future Vegeta. There's an issue there which is why I've always opted for Vegeta to not achieve Super Saiyan. But this is better. It just hit me the other day. It's just better. Yeah, I like this. Future Vegeta > Namek Goku Future Vegeta = Mecha...

You mean 2 Armed Gohan, right?

So how do you explain that. Super Buu was able to fight evenly for majority of their fight. So they should be even.

Part of ki is your mind state I’ll have to see how he did that’s when he started getting his ass kicked

He transformed off world

Piccolo 375 Future Vegeta 400 Future Gohan 450 Android 18 450 Android 17 500 @ahill1 what do you think

If he is he’s 400. I might actually be on board with him being SSJ now. perhaps he lost power due to lack of training and awakened SSJ due to rage from Goku’s death and leaving him Behind without giving him a chance to avenge himself yeah that’s what I think I’m going with

So how strong? Mech Freeza level or what?

SSJ Vegeta is super relevant. How strong do you have him?

Where does the story imply Gohan is weaker than that? Arent you a SSJ Future Vegeta believer?

Trunks 600 Gohan 550 Future 17 500 Gohan 450 Mecha 400 Namek Goku 375 Freeza 350 Come on dude, what more you want

This is madness. SSJ Trunks >= SSJ Future Gohan > Future 17 > SSJ Gohan (2 Arms) > Mecha Freeza Fit all that in 1.2x brah

1.5x Trunks manhandles Freeza within seconds.

@SSJ2 super Buu weakened mentally. Look before it’s equal

All of that can happen with a 1.2x gap. What does Buutenks do to Gohan than Piccolo couldn't do to Gero? Yeah, that's a 55% gap. That's what I'm saying. Gohan's punches are absolutely devastating.

Yeah, ki blasts get progressively stronger throughout the saga. Kamehameha 1.33x Galick Gun 1.33x Nova Strike 1.4x Big Bang Attack 1.5x Androids Kamehameha 1.5x Final Flash 2.5x CG Kamehameha 2.5x Final Explosion 5x

Evil Buu cannot rival the Gohan Goku is thinking about.