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By that measure, Base Vegeta > Piccolo is proven at the 25th Budokai.

Against Dabura? Piccolo gets tanked by Tagoma. Base Gohan fights well against Tagoma.

Well Gohan is a Super Saiyan 2 at the Budokai. We have definitive proof he's only a Super Saiyan against Dabura. The best proof to look at is how Majin Vegeta is treated besides the clearly drawn art for Gohan as well. TOEI Haxxed Piccolo is Cell Jr level if not higher. No doubt he's stronger...

Authors create stories. Stories have narratives. Narratives change. Reading comprehension is all that required to understand these narratives. You are going off of the old narrative, the new one clearly goes against your point of view. The Budokai implications are not upheld later on. We...

The problem with your interpretation is that it's outdated. The author moved on from whatever previously conceived notion you expected. Shin is piss weak. Piccolo is piss weak. It is what it is. Gohan is not a Super Saiyan 2 vs Dabura. The events of the Budokai and their logical progression do...

The author had amnesia, therefore Shin had a complete memory wipe. Shin has zero memory of it and the way he reacted to it shouldn't be a factor, it might as well be two different people.

100%, Kaioshin has eyes. Lol. I mean, that's really the argument. Fighters have always been able to discern power superiority and inferiority based on movement speed. See a fighter move 10x faster then you? Yep, we can't beat him. Watch a fighter move in slow motion, yep, we can beat him...

Kaioshin was cautious about people who are 10x weaker than him?

What makes you think that? Buu Arc 18 vs Kaioshin

TOEI Hax Goku is one of the worst characters we ever experience. Why would you want to put us through that again when we have a great alternative option? Goku is simply not needed during this arc, this is Gohan's time to shine.

This is Gogeta we are talking about. No villain in Z can beat Super Saiyan Gogeta without a doubt. Gogeta is perhaps the most favored character ever, he's a babyface, this boy ain't losing to no one! Super Saiyan Vegetto > Super Saiyan Gogeta > All of Z

Sure, but if we are going to rewrite the story, we might as well fix those things. Broly is really a Cell like villain, which means Gohan should have the victory over these types. Ssj2 Gohan should be fight M8 Broly, M10 Broly, and Bojack. We might as well get as much good action from Ssj2...

If this isn't a time to give someone other than Goku the victory I don't know what is. Super Saiyan 2 Gohan is one of the most epic characters we ever see. To give the victory to Goku with absorbing everyone's energy nonsense when you have the ultra powerful Gohan there seems wrong. I think M8...

So remember, one saga effects another. So if we know the kids end up Cell Jr level at ToP, then we sometimes have to work backwards to account for everything. The humans end up quite strong during the Androids Saga. Gohan + Krillen + Tien should more or less equal a Suppressed Piccolo. A...

Of course not, but if he did and did them with serious intent, they'd be remarkably different no doubt.

M8 Broly should be fighting against a Ssj2 Gohan and M10 Broly should be fighting against a fusion.

Which power level list do you think is best?

Right off the bat, I'm going to assume 45, I remember him being a little weaker than Cell.

Shoot now I feel pressure lol. Do you know how to put up a few panels from the manga? That's all I need, post the pictures of what this version of Trunks does and I can probably come up with something.

Super Vegeta 25 Perfect Cell 50 Grade 3 Trunks 72 Buff Cell 75 Not sure about Suppressed Grade 3, that’s a great question. I’ll have to look into it