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  1. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    It's likely that not even 3 Post Zeta Super Saiyan 2 Gohans can defeat Fat Buu. I feel like you are underestimating just how powerful Fat Buu is. Like, Ssj3 Goku needs to work to beat him. Ssj2 level in the movies is not competing with Post Zeta Gohan.
  2. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    Sure, but I don't think they are intended to be completely different characters. The purpose of using a character such as Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, is to show a character relative to the strength of the character in the original story. Let's say we made Raditz Beerus level. He would essentially no...
  3. Power Level Guy

    Broly gap over the Kamehameha

    Goku 15 KKx10 150 KKx20 300 Kkx20 KHH 300 FF Cooler 500 Supernova 750 SSj Goku 750 Kaioken Kamehamehas have no amp, proven by their usage against Freeza and Cooler. There's simply no room for...
  4. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    Super Saiyan 3 was required for Fat Buu though
  5. Power Level Guy

    Vegeta ASSJ vs Piccolo (CG)?

    Piccolo is weaker than the Base Saiyans. So he isn't touching Semi-Cell or Super Vegeta level. Not even close. Remember, Piccolo has been training for many years after the Cell Games, a total of something like 11 or 12 years, and he's still weaker than the weakest adult Base Saiyan to ever...
  6. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    Yes, that's where we have him. He rivals Good Buu. Koyama's opinions that are contradicted do not stand.
  7. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    He can't be though. No amount of Super Saiyan 2s can beat Fat Buu. One Super Saiyan 2 beat Broly.
  8. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    Well the manga scaling is different. Gohan never fought Toppo in the manga.
  9. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    Sure, that's definitely possible. But until we get proof of that we have to assume that the last iteration we've seen of Goku and Vegeta are equal to the Gammas.
  10. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    That's what happens in every movie. This doesn't somehow power Broly up, he was still defeated by weak fighters.
  11. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    Yeah, Ultimate Gohan > Gammas. So how do we explain Gammas ~ Goku/Vegeta?
  12. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    It's been several years since Moro. Piccolo no doubt has seen them since. Pan wasn't even born yet in Moro Arc and now she's 3. No way have they gone that long without seeing each other.
  13. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    But since this is the manga, we probably have to assume that Piccolo is speaking about TUI Goku and UE Vegeta, no? I mean, the saga that happens right before the Cell-Max Saga is the Granolah Saga. So the reader should assume that the events of the previous saga carried over, no?
  14. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    SSJ Broly is stated to be beyond SSJ Goku. Majin Vegeta equals Ssj Goku. So Majin Vegeta cannot be superior to Broly.
  15. Power Level Guy

    Super-Hero Power Chain

    This thing is a mess... Let's start out slow. Gammas = Goku/Vegeta stated by Piccolo, right?
  16. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    He's getting smoked by Super Saiyan 2s. Vegetto is out of the question. Indeed. Broly was an opponent that fusion seems required, but they didn't have fusion as an option at the time. So they came up with crazy haxxes to beat him. But yeah, I don't think Broly > Z, despite what Koyama says...
  17. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    Unfortunately for Broly, that won't be enough to give him limitless power. He's defeated by people in the Super Saiyan 2 realm of power. Majin Buu simply is too much for him and any number of Super Saiyan 2s. Broly included. Majin Buu can defeat Broly, Vegeta, Goku, and Gohan. All at the same time.
  18. Power Level Guy

    How would Buu Saga non fused Base Saiyans fare in the Cell Arc (My Opinion)

    Yeah, we don't have any evidence of the boys weakening since the Buu Saga. It's probably best to assume they didn't.
  19. Power Level Guy

    How would Buu Saga non fused Base Saiyans fare in the Cell Arc (My Opinion)

    Doesn't that lead you to believe that perhaps your old interpretation isn't as accurate as you once thought?
  20. Power Level Guy

    Movie 10 Scalling

    Well that's what limits Broly imo. Super Saiyan 3 isn't required to defeat him. Super Saiyan 2 with some help can get it done. I don't think he's all that much stronger than Majin Vegeta. Fat Buu Powered Up level or somewhere around that.

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