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Sure, but there is superior and inferior. Consistency is better than inconsistency wouldn’t you agree? Logic is better than illogic, right?

Sure we can. Reecome cannot tank Vegeta. So we know all tanking gaps are beyond the gap that existed between Vegeta and Reecome. Sounds reasonable to me. My issue has always been consistency. So long as you are consistent across the board I never have an issue so long as you abide by the...

There's a multitude of things we've figured out on how to create a consistent list. Imperfect Cell >> Light Grenade >> Piccolo Piccolo 100 Light Grenade Imperfect Cell Then Android 16 is omega tanked by Semi-Perfect Cell. You aren't being consistent with your gaps and power chains. These...

You have Semi Cell less than 2x 17, yet there’s two tanking gaps between them. Why have you regressed so much?

So then Buu Saga Goku is weaker than Gohan?

Exactly my point.

Koyama says that he assumed Gohan had continued training, so he can even be beyond CG Gohan as well. Yeah, Broly around Mr. Buu level sounds about right. Dagon is saying he wants to put him close to Fat Buu level, which I've been disputing.

Where is that suggested? Wasn't Goku worried about lava himself?

Base Gohan outperformed Ssj Goten against Ssj Broly.

Ssj Goten’s help should be largely inconsequential. Base Gohan > Ssj Goten So it’s really just Gohan’s own power. Who creates a blast that completely overwhelms Broly. Gohans Blast > Broly There’s a limit on ki amp. Gohan isn’t far away from Broly. And he’s not all that strong.

I'm just saying, that no amount of Super Saiyan 2s can defeat Majin Buu. Whereas 1 Super Saiyan 2 with a little help defeated Broly. Therefore disqualifying him from being Majin Buu territory. Make sense?

I already gave you a good reason. The character is marketed as being one with his power. When you say even Majin Buu was defeated! That would mean the Majin Buu we all know and love who exhibited the same realm of power as before. When Goku says, "You're tough, the last guy I needed to use...

It’s common sense stuff. Any reasonable person who sees the villain Raditz would assume he inhabits a Raditz level of battle power reasonable to the character unless otherwise specified. The character is connected to the level of power he inhabits. That’s how it works.

Seems fine to me

Yeah and it shows. The manga scaling is 1,000x more reasonable than the anime scaling which is absolute TOEI madness.

There's a lot of leeway in regards to how to best handle this canonical fact. It's really thrown a wrench into many debaters perceptions of how strong they are. Some people feel the boys were stronger than the Cell Juniors in the Buu Saga and have incrementally weakened over time. Others think...

As I said. The terms Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 have meaning that go beyond the words. They inhabit a realm of power which is portrayed as the basis of the entire movie. This would be true, so long as it's pre Grade Form and pre MSSJ. Regular ol Super Saiyan means regular ol Super...

Post Zeta Gohan is the highest rung of the Super Saiyan 2 level. Any higher and it's Super Saiyan 3 level.

Sure. So long as it's inconsequential.