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1. M5 Goku 2. Frieza crushes. Too early to sandbag with Kaioken against him

Watched the original and the Metal Saga a long time ago. The format is what you would expect from an action Shonen - battle, training, rivalry, bonds, obstacles, etc. just channeled through spinning tops and the beasts associated with them. The beasts are based on a variety of different mythos...

Kibito didn't seem to care for what Piccolo could do, but then again he held a default position that non-Gods are beneath his kind altogether, until Gohan threw a spanner in the works. Would give it to Piccolo since Kibito wasn't rock solid in terms of scaling. His ability to heal and teleport...

Goku takes it. Wider moveset and doesn't get as panicky when things aren't going his way. Vegeta not only recognised Goku's talent for power gains, but also his approach to fighting as well as we saw from late Buu Arc.

No problem GSM - you responded with something relevant and it technically wasn't you that revived the thread. From what I've seen, you usually stick to the topic in each debate, so you are not bothersome in the slightest.

A bit pedantic of you, especially with the timing, but sure.

To revive this thread over that, and doing such in a separate thread... Find another user to obsess over. The manga would suggest that the situation calls for not only physical strength, but a strong will, with the latter being what Gohan thought he lacked in comparison with his father. I...

Odd timing, but sure.

I'd say Vegeta's assessment works as a gist of what's mainly thought of by them. For instance, when a villain has done something unpleasant or sinister before Goku arrives to fight them, he tends to be serious and weighs up how he can use his resources and, as per Kaioken and such, ways to push...

What caught my attention is that Vegeta ascribes behavioral traits for why Goku is that good. While earlier in the arc, Majin Vegeta described Goku as being more gifted than he is. When you think of the term gifted, you usually think of something innate. What Vegeta mentioned in the Kid Buu...

Vegeta's analysis of why Goku is better than him: Vegeta fights to win, for the fun of it, to kill enemies, and to puff up his pride. Goku fights to better himself and to push his limits. The question is: if Vegeta used Goku's blueprint early (i.e. after their first fight), would this have...

^ Right, nothing worth scaling here

As dominant as Goku was against SB2, all we know about Baby is that he'd maul Z Vegito essentially. Goku dogwalks ToP no-names and arguably the mid-tier, but struggles against baseline God-tier & above.

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Ox-King came to mind

Productive debate. It's good to think about relatively lesser explored topics. Common topics have their use, since they refine/sharpen views, but this is refreshing.

It ought to be understood that their target takes precedence over short-term moments of surprise. Given that, prior to that sequence, Goku picked up on the basic idea of: cut these absorption objects to reduce the host's power, then that logic would follow suit with the Buu they found. The...

If we know Buu doesn't serve another purpose, wouldn't Goku? The only association he had with him was battle. I don't push back on the idea that danger would linger regardless. However, two things can be true. The canon situation being dangerous, and the concept you propose being even more...

What purpose would Buu serve besides power? Buu can turn anyone on the planet into a snack. And if the other Buu was just a bother, he could kill him. At least with the Z group -- particularly the weak ones or non-fighters -- it can be said that Buu wants to cause fear and panic. Seems pointless...

The boys, Gohan and Piccolo -- who influenced Buu's power -- being in those compartments would be enough to conclude that any strong being caught up in them is going to act as a power source. I claimed that Goku understood that Buu's power was changing - is that something you push back on? It's...