Best Damn Levels in the Business!

[p123]

No, that's dumb. It's one series. Not two. They should go together. It's important to see the progression.

 

[ahill1]

Well, then your DBs numbers would be in the decimals, which is a pain to read. You want to make your [post Raditz] numbers look nice at the expense of making the [pre Saiyans] numbers bad?

 

[p123]

Just add in some zeroes for the decimals, problem solved.

 

[ahill1]

Still ugly.

 

[p123]

You have to weigh your options. It's the best I can do. Raditz powers on are the priority if I have to choose one.

 

[ahill1]

Talking about Yajirobe, why do you think he is tough to place?

I think his feats are a bit weird. First he endures Goku's hits like nothing, leading Goku to believe he is the toughest person ever met. But later he seems to be struggling against Cymbal, until going all out.

 

[p123]

He also seems scared of Goku when he fights Tambourine and shits himself at the thought of fighting Piccolo Daimao. So yea, fuck that guy.

 

[ahill1]

He doesn't seem too scared of Goku when he beats up Tambourine. His reactions towards Goku beating Tambourine remembers Goku's reactions when he beated up Cymbal.

 

[p123]

Remind me not to make him mad?

 

[SSJ2]

What's your take on Goku telling Metallic that he should have entered the Budokai? I think it could warrant raising him a little bit.

 

[p123]

Are you saying that Goku wouldn't think Krillen should join the Budokai?

 

[SSJ2]

Good point.

 

[SIAD]

I do not see why Goku (Post Zenkai vs. Piccolo Daimao) = Tenshinhan (TB23). Tenshinah trusted that 4 of them could defeat Goku (Unweighted) and in fact, did not do such evil as did Goku against Mr. Popo.

I do not think Future Piccolo is as powerful as Freezer 100% (Namek), I'm sure that in that Timeline after Goku defeated Mecha Freezer and King Cold, they continued training, but not as hard, since there was not a Great merit to train very hard.

 

[p123]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but Tien = Goku Weighted, which is stated to be significantly above Goku vs PD in power, but not speed for Goku.

Also, I'm surprised no one has brought up the 5 year gap or the "Raditz scouter numbers". I think mine are much more accurate. At the 23rd Budokai, Piccolo and Goku are ridiculously above the humans it's not even funny. They are nowhere close to Popo, let alone Kami. Kami can fingerflick them, my numbers show the reality of the situation.

Piccolo ~ Goku >> Kami >> Popo >> Humans



I absolutely think Future Piccolo is a beast, how could he not be. We see the ridiculous gains he received for the Android training. I Future Piccolo at 28% of Present Piccolo. I don't know what more you want than that. I have Piccolo = Freeza and Ssj Vegeta = Mecha Freeza. Very fair overall.

 

[SIAD]

I mean that I think Tenshinhan fought much better against Goku (Unweighted), than Goku against Mr. Popo.

I find a great list of fight levels.

I think perfectly, Tenshinhan (BoZ) can have a level of 48 and still remain inferior to Mr. Popo.

When are you going to put your numbers on the Arco Cell and Majin Boo?

 

[p123]

Oh I see. Hmm, I'll check that out. Are you saying 4 Goku's wouldn't be able to do the same to Popo?

Tien at 48 is too close to Popo's 50 for my liking. I want Tien right there, but still significantly superior. Tien at 40 makes a lot more sense to me personally. This isn't about getting away with things, this is going with what I feel is proper, I don't advocate a thought like that.

I was going to work on them now actually.

I have to be careful with how I go about it, if I go with what I really feel, it ends up with the Base Kids >> 18, which I don't find to be accurate. So I have to penny pinch a little. But I want to make sure I do in the right spots.

 

[SIAD]

The truth of the difference between Mr. Popo and Goku is tremendous. Mr. Popo ate a Kamehameha of Goku. Mr. Popo skimmed Goku's blows with great ease.

 

[p123]

That was anime only. Although Mr. Popo is indeed superior to Goku by quite a margin, it's possible that Mr. Popo's ability to sense ki and move with a still heart amplified his power advantage. 1.5x is all that's necessary, if he did eat his Kamehameha in the manga, good lord, I don't even know how much of a boost that would be. Perhaps 100x or so. Doesn't really seem possible.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Popo eating the Kamehameha is filler.

 

[p123]

Alright, completed it. Included ki blasts, and Cell Saga, Broly, Buu Saga. Is it perfect? Unfortunately no, but it should be the best list out there for sure. No one can match my level of detail and correlation.