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Dragon Ball Wikia :troll

But seriously, she does look pretty young and i remember a source saying 18 is pretty young. Gotta search it.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Has anyone realized Kuririn is technically a pedo because he's entering his 30s and #18 is likely on her late teens by the Android Arc?
It was confirmed she was a teenager when Gero captured her, though from what we know with their enhancements being made prior to #19's creation, that would've happened at the very latest during the 3 year training timeskip, if not years prior. She's probably over #18 (pun intended) by that point, not to mention that considering the oversexualisation of Bulma in the first arc, Toriyama was likely going with the DB World going by one of Japan's variables in age of consent and probably made 16+ legal in the DB World's entirety.
 

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Why the fuck did Future Cell want to travel in time? He didn't know the twins were dead/deactivated and he hold himself in a higher regard than them.

Also, how does he know Trunks has improved? All Trunks did was move a suprpessed Cell around with a Kiai.
 

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His power shocked Cell. he was clearly way stronger than expected.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Why the fuck did Future Cell want to travel in time? He didn't know the twins were dead/deactivated and he hold himself in a higher regard than them.
I thought I remember him saying he couldn't find them or something like that.
 

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The same reason why Cell wanted to time-travel. He couldn't find the Androids, so he probably assumed it'd be easier to find them in a different era. Cell didn't know Trunks stopped the Androids in his timeline, either. It was a possibility in his mind, but that fact was never confirmed. What both Cell's have in common is that they searched for the Androids and were unable to locate them.

Cell seemed to be basing Trunks' power on the spy robot calculations. If I had to guess, Trunks' kiai packed more power than the calculated power Cell was going off of. #17 did the same when he noted that Vegeta was much stronger than Gero's data said he was while he was fighting #18.
 

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The way he reacted to Trunks confirming the twins were dead makes me doubt he considered the possibility. Trunks just said "If they are alive, where are they?" and Cell was like "WTF NO"

And the way he talks about Trunks power sounds like he's inferior unless he's doing the mental math to know how strong SSJ Trunks is gonna be. He's sweating and look nervous as fuck when he admits Trunks has gotten stronger.
 

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Future Cell probably didn't, but the fact that he was ready to leave that era tells me he was tired of searching for them. This scene is entirely different in the Anime. There, Cell only decided to steal Trunks' time machine and leave for the past after Trunks revealed he took the Androids out.

I'm not sure how the spy robots work, so it's possible it measured Trunks in all aspects. Maybe it calculated how strong he was in Base and Super Saiyan, though it'd make more sense to hone in on the power (Super Saiyan) that he actually used against the Androids. Either that or Trunks' Base exceeded the spy robots highest calculation of his power. In the Anime when Goku transformed to fight #19, they noted how it was different than the Kaio-Ken, which tells me the emphasis was on their Base power and whatever power-up they possessed outside of it.

Future Cell must've thought Trunks was sitting around eating candy during his experiences with Perfect Cell in the past or something. He doesn't even entertain the idea of Trunks improving until the kiai blows him out of West City.
 

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It wouldn't be too difficult to find the Androids. All Cell needed was a TV, radio, or sense a power level to find them.

I'm guessing Cell didn't knew about the remote control.
 

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When Cell was escaping from Piccolo, he mentioned the remote control and how the Androids would be easily destroyed if anyone had it.
 

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Ah. I forgot about that. Did he assumed Trunks or someone else use the remote control? I remember he saying maybe Trunks defeated the Androids.
 

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Cell just considers the possibility of Trunks defeating them like you said.

The way he says "thankfully that remote control no longer exists" sorta gives me the impression that he might've assumed Trunks used it to stop them in his timeline. If he knew Trunks was weaker than them and yet was still able to stop them, his fear of them utilizing the remote control actually makes sense. Not sure why he assumed the remote control wasn't around in that era. He couldn't have known #17 smashed it.
 

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Sounds complicated to explain that. I assume even in the future timeline, Gero has the remote control with him when he activated the Androids and 17 smash it. Unless Cell think Trunks got a hold of the blueprints like he did in the main timeline.
 

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Honestly, I can't think of anything else. Cell is under the impression that Piccolo is the only one on the planet capable of fighting the Androids. Knowing this, I'm not sure how he'd think someone like Trunks could kill both Androids under his own power.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Future Cell probably didn't, but the fact that he was ready to leave that era tells me he was tired of searching for them. This scene is entirely different in the Anime. There, Cell only decided to steal Trunks' time machine and leave for the past after Trunks revealed he took the Androids out.

I'm not sure how the spy robots work, so it's possible it measured Trunks in all aspects. Maybe it calculated how strong he was in Base and Super Saiyan, though it'd make more sense to hone in on the power (Super Saiyan) that he actually used against the Androids. Either that or Trunks' Base exceeded the spy robots highest calculation of his power. In the Anime when Goku transformed to fight #19, they noted how it was different than the Kaio-Ken, which tells me the emphasis was on their Base power and whatever power-up they possessed outside of it.

Future Cell must've thought Trunks was sitting around eating candy during his experiences with Perfect Cell in the past or something. He doesn't even entertain the idea of Trunks improving until the kiai blows him out of West City.

Why go to the past though? It's not like it would be any easier to find them just because he's on the past.

I don't think Cell's reaction actually implies Base Trunks > SSJ Trunks though. All he says is that Trunks has grown stronger, he doesn't say he exceeded all data or compares him to his former SSJ self.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Why go to the past though? It's not like it would be any easier to find them just because he's on the past.

Maybe he went there because he thought he could find them inside the lab. Before they were activated and kill Gero.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Evil Vegeta said:
Future Cell probably didn't, but the fact that he was ready to leave that era tells me he was tired of searching for them. This scene is entirely different in the Anime. There, Cell only decided to steal Trunks' time machine and leave for the past after Trunks revealed he took the Androids out.

I'm not sure how the spy robots work, so it's possible it measured Trunks in all aspects. Maybe it calculated how strong he was in Base and Super Saiyan, though it'd make more sense to hone in on the power (Super Saiyan) that he actually used against the Androids. Either that or Trunks' Base exceeded the spy robots highest calculation of his power. In the Anime when Goku transformed to fight #19, they noted how it was different than the Kaio-Ken, which tells me the emphasis was on their Base power and whatever power-up they possessed outside of it.

Future Cell must've thought Trunks was sitting around eating candy during his experiences with Perfect Cell in the past or something. He doesn't even entertain the idea of Trunks improving until the kiai blows him out of West City.

Why go to the past though? It's not like it would be any easier to find them just because he's on the past.

I don't think Cell's reaction actually implies Base Trunks > SSJ Trunks though. All he says is that Trunks has grown stronger, he doesn't say he exceeded all data or compares him to his former SSJ self.

Because if he could go to a time where the Androids were active, it'd be easier for him to track them down. The Androids weren't active in that time, so he had no way of finding them. If they were destroying on a daily basis in the past, Cell would at least have a trail to follow.

Then you can just go along with Base Trunks>>>>Base Trunks prior to leaving for the past. Cell's reaction tells me the improvement was noticeable enough for him to actually comment on it.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Then you can just go along with Base Trunks>>>>Base Trunks prior to leaving for the past. Cell's reaction tells me the improvement was noticeable enough for him to actually comment on it.

I actually go with Base Trunks > Cell because of that implication.

How strong you think Base Trunks was at that point?
 

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Why did Trunks set the time machine to age 763, the year when the Z Warriors were using the Namekian DBs to revive Tenshinhan and the others? A year before Mecha Freeza and Future Trunks debut? Or did Viz mess up?

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