Dragon Ball Discussion

[Captain Cadaver]

#1 - Goku
#2 - Piccolo
#3 - Kami
#4 - Tenshinhan
#5 - Mr. Popo
#6 - Piccolo Daimao
#7 - Yamcha
#8 - Kuririn
#9 - Taopaipai
#10 - Chichi

I'd place Ten above Popo mainly due to the Kikoho. In a fist fight, it's hard to say which of the two is superior since their feats both display them as >> post-Choshinsui Galu, though I'd say Popo wins in that scenario due to Ten not specifying how much stronger the Goku he was only superior to in terms of speed was compared to 3 years ago. Kuririn would be above Yamcha if not for the Sokidan, seeing as how it did more to Shen than any of Kuririn's attacks did to Piccolo.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What if Popo eats his Kikoho? mg

@Pocket
#1: Goku/Piccolo
#2: God
#3: Popo
#4: Tenshinhan
#5: Piccolo Daimao
#6: Kuririn/Yamcha
#7: Tao Pai Pai (Cyborg)
#8: Chi-Chi
#9: Yajirobe
#10: Chaozu

 

[Pocket-God]

So Chichi got pretty strong training on her own, or training with her father I guess. How strong do you think she could've become if she trained with Roshi and then Kami/Popo?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So Chichi got pretty strong training on her own, or training with her father I guess. How strong do you think she could've become if she trained with Roshi and then Kami/Popo?

She was confirmed as quite the master by Roshi and had no qualms facing Goku after seeing him oneshot Chappa, so she's most likely above the 22nd TB competition. Her being one of the finalists seems to infer to me through the narrative she's at least stronger than Chaozu as well.

I don't think she'd get much stronger by doing the same training Goku, Kuririn and Yamcha did with Roshi due to already vastly surpassing such a plateau. As for Kami and Popo, it depends whether or not she's receiving the same training as Goku or the humans, seeing as how the latter gain more power from 1/6th the training time, plus how long she's training for. Assuming she undergoes the same training the humans did in the Saiyan Arc, I imagine her already being likely above Chaozu and Yajirobe's level would propel her above them, so going by Yajirobe's battle power in the V-Jump, she'd be closing in on the 1k range.

 

[ahill1]

Her being one of the finalists seems to infer to me through the narrative she's at least stronger than Chaozu as well. 

Wouldn't that mean Panpoot is above Chappa-o though?

Also, does her being confident enough on taking out Goku (or at least providing him a tough match as she merely said kncoking her out won't be easy, not that she is going to win) upon 'maybe' seeing Goku taking out Chappa-o necessarily place her above the 22nd Budokai verse? I mean, King Chappa only needs to be stronger than the version of Goku who took him out, who was still far from his full power.

 

[ahill1]

#17 has said here he recognizes Goku's voice. How do you think that's possible considering he has never met him before?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Gero was gathering a lot of data on Goku, so it's possible he heard a recording of his voice.

Or #17 heard Goku's voice while he was inside of Cell.

 

[Papasmurf]

Gero was gathering a lot of data on Goku, so it's possible he heard a recording of his voice.

Or #17 heard Goku's voice while he was inside of Cell.

Wonder why 18 wasn't conscious inside Cell.... was she fused with Cell's crotch to make android babies for him???

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why the fuck does Goku changes from three to two days while asking for Babidi to wait? I mean, he took a week to learn the dance, why he's lowballing so badly the time his kid has to learn it?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

When you think about it, two days is already too much based on what would be taking place with Boo roaming around the planet. It took Goku a week, but he had a lot of free time. The same wouldn't apply here.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Babidi even said he was going to destroy the planet in 5 days, yet Goku asked to cut more than half of the time. It sure isn't because of victims as Goku was the one to bring up the Dragon Balls.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

These guys aren't exactly the most trustworthy people. Why even take a chance? Bobbidi or Boo could've just decided to nuke the planet because they were tired of waiting.

Not finishing off Boo was the dumbest thing Goku did. That's actually worse than anything else.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Tbh Goku not killing Boo makes sense for me. He decided to stay dead because he didn't want to defend earth anymore, if he killed Boo there he'd be an hypocrite. It was rather contradictory for him to fight Boo though, even though that fight was pretty cool.


Why Goku says he's taking the gamble because they boys are strong if he thought they were weak when they power up to him and Piccolo? The boys were also pretty close to Gohan, and he thought fusing with Gohan would be enough to beat Boo, but he looks rather disappointed by their power.

 

[Papasmurf]

I wouldn't call him fighting Boo contradictory considering the Dragon Radar (= mass revivals) was on the line.

Galu wasn't really disappointed in the manga I believe, the disappointment was mostly in the dubbed anime iirc.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Goku could just IT his way to Capsule Corp though.

He says "That's all?", implying he expected more from them, yet he thinks the gamble is worth it because of how "gifted" they are...

 

[Papasmurf]

Didn't he also urge Fat Boo to avoid killing innocent people until his next challenger appears in 2 days? Since Cell only killed ppl in the 10 days pre-CG if they attacked him first, he probably thought that was worth a shot. That, or he thought it might've been a good opportunity to eliminate Babidi I guess. He immediately taunted Boo about being Babidi's slave as soon as they spoke.

Also, that's Viz-ism. The original dialogue is more like

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I think it was more about Goku not being blown away than actual disappointment. Trunks and Goten thought Goku was going to be shocked, but he really wasn't.

 

[Papasmurf]

There's little reason Goku should be shocked anyway since he has 2 forms above them and already watched them fight in the tournament, lol.

As for why Pikkoyo was shocked despite that, just see the whole Gotenks vs. Boo segment to see how heavily on cocaine he was at the time.

 

[ahill1]

Goku was actually a little surprised about Boo still keeping his killing rampage when he disposed from Babidi, but he still was sure Boo wouldn't destroy the Earth since this latter seemed excited at the prospect at fighting really strong guys, who would take up the challenge into two days.

 

[ahill1]

I was watching the anime scene in which Vegeta fights Freeza after achieving a super power up through his Zenkai and a line from Piccolo has caught my attention.

Granted that such moment is filler, but it at least seems to imply that Vegeta's power up via the Zenkai >> Piccolo's power up through the Nail's fusion. There'd be no reason Piccolo would be surprised that all of a sudden someone could achive such power up if he had achieved a similar power up when merging with Nail.