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Evil Vegeta

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Bobbidi thought Pui-Pui defeated all 3 Saiyans in like 2 mins.

When he inserted Boo's energy, he said he wondered if Pui-Pui was done with the battle yet.

If Pui-Pui was finished, clearly the meter would've been near its max.

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Yeah that's pretty retarded. There's also him thinking SSJ2 Gohan's energy came from a few hundred people.
 

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Does this refute the train of thought that End of Z Goku is barely any stronger than Boo arc Goku? Why would he suggest such a thing if he's basically completely tapped out and at his limit?
 

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I never knew people suggested End of Z Goku was barely above Boo saga Goku.

But that should be enough to refute it entirely. I was always under the impression that Base Goku was at a ridiculous level when he fought Oob.
 

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I was reading the manga and I was thinking... how did Piccolo know Goku'd just be revived when the Saiyajins were about the arrive? When he took Gohan to train he was still under the impression Goku would be revived soon and he couldn't get the information that Goku would be revived way later from anyone... yet he still assumed the Saiyajins must be about to arrive since Goku has been already revived.

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Another doubt. It seems Goku getting at Enma's place with a fresh body was an exception since Kami wished to ask his permission so Goku could train with Kaio-Sama... every other dead was there as a soul. So how could Enma have fought Raditz when this latter was likely there as a soul? He'd have fought against Raditz's soul? Lol.
 

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Since Piccolo knew Kami had special plans for Goku, it's likely that he believed Goku wasn't revived immediately because he was off receiving a yr's worth of special training for the Saiyans. Despite knowing nothing about Goku's training, Piccolo still considered him the strongest and their best chance at victory.

Based on Goku's importance against the Saiyans, his abrupt return would either signify that his training was complete, or they were going to have to fight the Saiyans sooner than expected. Goku asked Raditz when the other Saiyans would arrive, so I think it'd be reasonable for Piccolo to assume Goku needed this information so he'd be ready for them whenever they were close to arriving on Earth.

Can't really think of another answer for this one right now.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Since Piccolo knew Kami had special plans for Goku, it's likely that he believed Goku wasn't revived immediately because he was off receiving a yr's worth of special training for the Saiyans. Despite knowing nothing about Goku's training, Piccolo still considered him the strongest and their best chance at victory.

Based on Goku's importance against the Saiyans, his abrupt return would either signify that his training was complete, or they were going to have to fight the Saiyans sooner than expected. Goku asked Raditz when the other Saiyans would arrive, so I think it'd be reasonable for Piccolo to assume Goku needed this information so he'd be ready for them whenever they were close to arriving on Earth.

Can't really think of another answer for this one right now.
Makes sense.

What about Raditz fighting Enma Daio as a soul? Maybe Enma gave him a body so they could fight? Because it's likely Raditz wente there as a soul.

What is funny though is that Goku expected to feel Cell's chi in the other World when this latter self destructed. So maybe big villains get there with their bodies? Dunno.
 

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Didn't Goku question where Cell's soul was? I guess that would at least tell us he wasn't expecting him to have a body.

Raditz seemed to be a very odd case.
 

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Either way, I enjoy these random instances you post about. The Piccolo and arrival of the Saiyans along with the Enma made me think about stuff I never really thought about.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Either way, I enjoy these random instances you post about. The Piccolo and arrival of the Saiyans along with the Enma made me think about stuff I never really thought about.
Thanks :D

Yeah, since I am rereading the manga I end up realizing things I didn't pay too much attention to before. Whenever I reread the Dragon Ball manga there's some thing new I am intrigued about haha.
 

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Why Trunks contradicts himself while 18 and Vegeta are fighting? First he says he was no match for the twins, but then he says he could fight them fairly well.
 

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This is one of the parts that are just badly written, imo.

The fact that he just admitted he was "absolutely no match" for the Future Androids a few chapters prior is enough to tell us his efforts were irrelevant. Standing up against the Future Androids without being tossed aside in a few hits is technically a "better" effort than he did in the present. It could just be a matter of perspective. He got dropped in two attacks and had his sword broken with ease.
 

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I just checked the manga, and he actually said he was no match right after Vegeta leaved to follow Gero. I thought it was during Vegeta vs 18 fight.

I think Trunks might have overstimated the twins to make them look like a bigger threat thus make the Z Fighters more serious. Makes me wonder if he was lying to Goku back then when he killed Freeza as well.
 

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I doubt he was overestimating the Androids. They were pretty much unbeatable in every single way to him.

When you throw in more powerful versions of his enemies, I can see why his perspective to fighting both versions changed.
 

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A random question but what's the consensus here on Base Saiyans vs Namek Frieza prior to Goku battling Beerus and such?
 

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I think most of us just choose to disregard Super logic with how contradictory the show is and how many stupid things Toriyama says nowadays (e.g. Raditz being an elite warrior).
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
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I doubt he was overestimating the Androids. They were pretty much unbeatable in every single way to him.

When you throw in more powerful versions of his enemies, I can see why his perspective to fighting both versions changed.

That's from when he killed Freeza. I'm talking about this statement:
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That's like an hour before he says he could hold his own with both of them.
 
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