Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero
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Talked this in Kanzenshuu with some folks and some people think Toriyama might have succumbed to Toei’s “Ultimate is a transformation” thing. Explains why he has different hairstyles in base.
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That's fair. Just in this series alone, he's been Super Saiyan in BoG, which was changed to Ultimate at the last minute because AT forgot about it. Then in FnF, Ultimate is Gone and Gohan barely pulls off SSJ. When we get to the ToP, Gohan can use SSJ but has to get his Ultimate form remastered by training with Piccolo. Now, in Super Hero, he's going SSJ again. Clearly, the original understanding of Ultimate no longer applies.
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Someone also said Gohan’s “I’ll evolve as a human” thing was a Toyotaro idea, and Toriyama doesn’t give a shit about it. He’ll just write following his own notes instead of any particular medium. Goes along with how the Broly movie portrayed SSJB and it’s variations (or lack thereof).
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It's official. Goten and Trunks have finally been aged up. Official Promo art also shows 18's new design.
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Ah yessir. Finally.
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Just them being grown up feels like the most progression we've had in the series in a very long time.
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And if the fusion-pose means anything and isn't just used for promotional-material's sake, we'll also see grown-up Gotenks.
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Probably. That's some fan service, but its one of the only things left that fans have been waiting to see. It will be interesting to see if they movie establishes Gohan>Gotenks or not. Having Gotenks be above Gohan would kind of undercut Gohan in this.
Also this adds to my theory that any further movies or anime will deviate from the manga. Since they are still kids in the manga, it will be weird to see the show pick up where the ToP left off and follow the manga from there, going back from the movie and making them kids again. Especially since more people will see this movie as opposed to those who read the manga.
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I thought Pan'd grow-up above Goten & Trunks, whilst they remained the same height. 
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It was looking that way for a minute. Don't worry she'll probably get the final kill in this movie.I thought Pan'd grow-up above Goten & Trunks, whilst they remained the same height.
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She did defeat Goten at the end of the DragonBall Z anime. 
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Pan>Gotenks confirmed.She did defeat Goten at the end of the DragonBall Z anime.
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I’m literally so happy about this. This is probably the biggest status quo change since Battle of Gods.
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Battle of Gods wasn't much of a status-quo in-universe, but I guess you mean out-of-universe.
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Dragon Ball Super, Super Gay
What did he mean by this
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Look at 18's haircut. GT is canon and stronger than DBS.
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Nah it totally was. Battle of Gods was the set up for the entirety of DBS, and DBS is wildly different from Z.
