Recent Chapter Discussion

[Pocket-Gog~]

Maybe this will teach Goku to use the fucking Hakai.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

It's time to whip this out since its most relevant now:

The Toyotaro Cycle:

Arc Begins
- Streamlined beginning
- Fan complaints of the previous ones are seemingly addressed
- Fan wishes begin to come true
- Lore
~ This is so much better than the anime!
~ Toyotaro is finally coming to his own as a writer!
~ Lore!
~ It's not just about fighting!
~ Wow, Vegeta is so good here!

2nd Act
- Antagonists are poorly characterized and have no dynamic with the cast
- Goku gets an increasingly lessened role
- Form cycling/transformation mechanics overtake characters
- Lack of thematic backbone begins to show
- Referencing begins to get out of control
~ At least it makes more sense than the anime!
~ That was in the outlines, it's not Toyotaro's fault
~ Not everything has to center around Goku!
~ I don't know why you are putting so much emphasis on the references

Finale
- Goku's shoved into the final fight, even when he has no chemistry with anyone
- Arc almost entirely falls apart on nearly every font, there are no themes and the mechanics devolve into nonsense
- Abrupt and anti-climatic resolution
- Every page has a reference
~ He must have been rushed to finish it.
~ There was just no way to make this arc good. The outline was fucked from the get go
~ I hope he gets to tell the story he wants to tell on the next one.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-62/chapter/20770?action=read

 

[Keedounan]

Here's a more direct link:

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1007361

 

[Future Warrior]

I think Merus is just gonna stall Moro instead of fighting him, while Dende heals everyone. As for how they defeat him, who the fuck knows at this point?

Edit: Didn't notice Merus actually attacked Moro, so it's possible he'll try to defeat him himself. Welp, guess he's getting erased now.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Goku goes MUI and we find out that the form possesses regeneration/healing capabilities, which will then be retconned or lessened in the next arc.

Also, we need a Toyo emoticon since is not as applicable in recent times.

 

[SIAD]

Merus is simply amazing.

What is the new power chain?

Did Gohan and Piccolo get even stronger or was it just a momentary increase in Gohan's power? And if so, how strong did they become?

Piccolo now has a higher amp attack than Moro (Current), will that mean that attack will have the power of MUI Goku?

 

[Symbiote]

Looked like he was charging up a Light Grenade.

 

[SIAD]

That attack could have destroyed everything, including Moro. Could it be that Piccolo's grenade is at the MUI Goku level?

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

 

[SSJ2]

Galu getting the hole punched through his chest was the best moment in the manga.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Well, at least this chapter didn't present more than one series-destroying plot holes or flanderisations of characters, thus making it better than the last several chapters we've got. Still, it's otherwise just a typical villain stomp scenario in which Moro's new power up conveniently removes 73's limitations because...reasons. I did find it entertaining how Moro pointed out how bland Vegeta's main techniques really are though. Also, I guess Shunkan Ido Kamehameha is still as busted as ever if it took out the arm of someone stronger than UI Sign Galu (unless Moro was having the Boo effect of lowering his durability out of confidence). Imagine if Galu had used it earlier...or done anything smart in Super, for that matter . Gohan knowing the Galactica Donuts out of nowhere was a bit dumb though when he never saw Gotenks fight Boo and, if he's trained with Gotenks beforehand, why are Goten and Trunks not in this arc?

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Gohan knowing the Galactica Donuts out of nowhere was a bit dumb though when he never saw Gotenks fight Boo and, if he's trained with Gotenks beforehand, why are Goten and Trunks not in this arc?

Don't ask, it's Toyo's brilliant writing at work.

 

[Papasmurf]

Gohan knowing the Galactica Donuts out of nowhere was a bit dumb though when he never saw Gotenks fight Boo and, if he's trained with Gotenks beforehand, why are Goten and Trunks not in this arc?

Gotenks-Boo did technically use it against him.

 

[SIAD]

Gohan and Piccolo are even stronger than before?

How strong is Granada by Piccolo today?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That's true, though Gohan definitely doesn't take after his dad when it comes to copying the basics of a technique on the first observation.

 

[Papasmurf]

That's true, though Gohan definitely doesn't take after his dad when it comes to copying the basics of a technique on the first observation.

Well, we know Future Gohan was able to copy the Taiyoken for what it's worth.

 

[Papasmurf]

Just read the chapter out of curiosity and apparently Vegeta can't use Spirit Fission on Moro because he can't damage him if he dodges, but Moro's power to use Spirit Fission after copying it from Vegeta means they can no longer fuse?

Couldn't SSJB/SSJBE/UI Sign/whatever Vegetto or Gogeta just dodge Moro and avoid taking damage?

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Just read the chapter out of curiosity and apparently Vegeta can't use Spirit Fission on Moro because he can't damage him if he dodges, but Moro's power to use Spirit Fission after copying it from Vegeta means they can no longer fuse?

So if Vegeta used Spirit Fission on Moro he would break apart into 73 and Moro?

 

[Southern Gothic]

Too bad Veget maxed out his one time Instantaneous Movement card. Would be mighty convenient to have right now for the sake of landing a single, quick hit on Moro and ending this fight rather easily.
:toyo/troll