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So Beerus by saying that he was going to help UI Goku against Moro, does he mean that Whis >>> Merus = UI Goku = UI Moro >> Beerus?
 

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If anything, it shows Beerus is still above Moro as well as Merus seeing as how he didn't seem to act as though beating him would be difficult and, narrative-wise, it seems obvious that Beerus being called away from the battle was a way in which for him to not be the one to kill Moro.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
If anything, it shows Beerus is still above Moro as well as Merus seeing as how he didn't seem to act as though beating him would be difficult and, narrative-wise, it seems obvious that Beerus being called away from the battle was a way in which for him to not be the one to kill Moro.

Or is it because Beerus has the Hakai and can eliminate characters more powerful than himself? And how to explain that Goku called Moro (OG73I) the toughest character, if UI Goku left him injured?
 

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I doubt Beerus would be confident enough in hitting Moro with Hakai as his only option if Moro had such speed UI Goku could barely avoid his mouth blast. As for Goku injuring Moro, this wouldn't really necessitate Goku's power being above Broly when Goku commented on Moro making unecessary movements that'd cause him to expend more energy. Even if Moro were more durable than Beerus, that isn't to say he'd have better stamina.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
I doubt Beerus would be confident enough in hitting Moro with Hakai as his only option if Moro had such speed UI Goku could barely avoid his mouth blast. As for Goku injuring Moro, this wouldn't really necessitate Goku's power being above Broly when Goku commented on Moro making unecessary movements that'd cause him to expend more energy. Even if Moro were more durable than Beerus, that isn't to say he'd have better stamina.

So Beerus is much more powerful than Vermoud. The string would be this:

Whis >> Gogeta PSSJB >> Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu)> = Broly LSSJ> = Beerus> = Merus = UI Goku = UI Moro >>> Moro (OG73I)> = UI Goku (ToP)> Jiren (Beyond Limits)> Moro (FP)> Jiren (FP)> = Vermoud?
 

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Every time I think Super can't get any more demented I'm always proven wrong :ha :cena
 

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Not even gonna read this asstrash. My unburned retinas want to stay that way
 

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Chapter 66, and Super is as Super does.

As usual, more ambiguity gets tossed in for power scaling with UI Goku apparently not having as much God Ki as Merus, despite him fighting evenly with someone that had inherited all of Merus' abilities. So what, could Moro only utilise a fraction of the power without turning into Ego The Living Planet? It doesn't seem as though he could use it all either way if taking Goku's statement at face value, considering even with the buff of Earth's energy his attacks were still being easily blocked by Goku.
Then we have Vegeta still being capable of going SSBE, despite Moro having been draining energy for seemingly quite a while whereas their short scuffle on Namek was enough time to drain Vegeta to the extent that he couldn't even go SSJ. It's like Moro's incompetency increases linearly with his power :alex2.
The part of Piccolo needing to confirm some details with Vegeta about energy transfer does act as one good bit of information as it confirms what was until then an inference that Ki transfer was a skill mainly only those who were divine or trained under a deity like Kaio could accomplish rather than being some standard skill, so good to have that 100% confirmed at least. Also, apparently Yamcha's a bachelor. Guess things didn't work out with his Cell Arc girlfriend or she was always about as real as the idea of Super being good :cena.
The utilisation of Oob though is easily the worst part of the chapter due to the amount of inconsistencies it causes with the end of Z, seeing as how Bulma is in reach of hearing things such as "Evil Boo's reincarnation" being mentioned and doesn't bat an eye, not to mention it likely further proves Boo will go through some amnesia at the end of the arc when considering he's already interacted with Oob despite showing no signs of acknowledging who he is at the 28th TB. Guess the chapter at least clears up that him competing with Base Galu would be through his God Ki rather than Goku's power being retconned to fit the end of the manga, though that in itself raises huge problems with how Pure Boo couldn't just use it to tear through everyone :facepalm.
Also, that whole sequence of giant UI Galu is by far the most random and unnecessary thing in Super and Moro's faces are the stuff of nightmares. Someone make every single face he made this chapter an emoji :cena.

Overall, still a very bad chapter, but with slightly more merits than the past few, hopefully bringing an end to Moro and not having him asspull his way to extending the arc yet again.
 

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The fucking state of this franchise.

So it wasn't a "Spirit Bomb", but rather a "Spirit Fission Bomb". Fair enough I guess. At least Toyo had the idea to allow Vegeta to use the technique a second time and not let the bulk of his arc in this story be thrown away on the main villains second to last transformation.

Uub is shoved in here just because it had to happen eventually. Toyo again rips off the Cell Games, anime version this time, when everyone gives their power to Galu and help him defeat the boss. Only this time he completely undercuts it since Uub's energy was more than enough to compensate.

One has to wonder, however: Vegeta was able to hold off Moro by countering his energy absorption with Spirit-Fission, but in the end wasn't able to keep up. He was close, though. I would think if Galu did the Genki at the same time, they could have tipped the scales. But that would rob Galu of his grand moment so of course that does happen.

The absolute state of Galu's final attack where they couldn't even be bothered to make it the Dragon Fist for at least a great visual.
 

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I enjoyed Oob's cameo part along with Grand Supreme Kai. I thought that was cool. I did like that choreography fight of Goku and Moro at the beginning since it remind of Goku's fight with Fat Janemba. And the rest, sucks.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Also, that whole sequence of giant UI Galu is by far the most random and unnecessary thing in Super and Moro's faces are the stuff of nightmares. Someone make every single face he made this chapter an emoji :cena.

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Captain Cadaver said:
Chapter 66, and Super is as Super does.

As usual, more ambiguity gets tossed in for power scaling with UI Goku apparently not having as much God Ki as Merus, despite him fighting evenly with someone that had inherited all of Merus' abilities. So what, could Moro only utilise a fraction of the power without turning into Ego The Living Planet? It doesn't seem as though he could use it all either way if taking Goku's statement at face value, considering even with the buff of Earth's energy his attacks were still being easily blocked by Goku.
Then we have Vegeta still being capable of going SSBE, despite Moro having been draining energy for seemingly quite a while whereas their short scuffle on Namek was enough time to drain Vegeta to the extent that he couldn't even go SSJ. It's like Moro's incompetency increases linearly with his power :alex2.
The part of Piccolo needing to confirm some details with Vegeta about energy transfer does act as one good bit of information as it confirms what was until then an inference that Ki transfer was a skill mainly only those who were divine or trained under a deity like Kaio could accomplish rather than being some standard skill, so good to have that 100% confirmed at least. Also, apparently Yamcha's a bachelor. Guess things didn't work out with his Cell Arc girlfriend or she was always about as real as the idea of Super being good :cena.
The utilisation of Oob though is easily the worst part of the chapter due to the amount of inconsistencies it causes with the end of Z, seeing as how Bulma is in reach of hearing things such as "Evil Boo's reincarnation" being mentioned and doesn't bat an eye, not to mention it likely further proves Boo will go through some amnesia at the end of the arc when considering he's already interacted with Oob despite showing no signs of acknowledging who he is at the 28th TB. Guess the chapter at least clears up that him competing with Base Galu would be through his God Ki rather than Goku's power being retconned to fit the end of the manga, though that in itself raises huge problems with how Pure Boo couldn't just use it to tear through everyone :facepalm.
Also, that whole sequence of giant UI Galu is by far the most random and unnecessary thing in Super and Moro's faces are the stuff of nightmares. Someone make every single face he made this chapter an emoji :cena.

Overall, still a very bad chapter, but with slightly more merits than the past few, hopefully bringing an end to Moro and not having him asspull his way to extending the arc yet again.

Maybe Goku at that time was relatively hurt and that is why he could not use the same level of Merus? Or could it be that UI Moro couldn't access 100% of Merus's power?
 

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I actually was enjoying this arc until Moro absorbed 7-3.

Seeing Moro end up as some grotesque monster with no reason was pretty disappointing to me. Guess we'll learn why Grand Priest summoned Beerus next chapter.
 

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Pocket-Gog~ said:
Captain Cadaver said:
Also, that whole sequence of giant UI Galu is by far the most random and unnecessary thing in Super and Moro's faces are the stuff of nightmares. Someone make every single face he made this chapter an emoji :cena.

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Anyone ever see a slow motion video of someone taking a shotgun blast to the face like in some of those clips ISIS would release a few years ago?

If you haven't, I'm here to tell you it looks just like Moro in this panel.
 

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Southern Gothic said:
Pocket-Gog~ said:
Captain Cadaver said:
Also, that whole sequence of giant UI Galu is by far the most random and unnecessary thing in Super and Moro's faces are the stuff of nightmares. Someone make every single face he made this chapter an emoji :cena.

3gkdOs6.png

Anyone ever see a slow motion video of someone taking a shotgun blast to the face like in some of those clips ISIS would release a few years ago?

If you haven't, I'm here to tell you it looks just like Moro in this panel.
Toyo must have been browsing some fucked up videos then. This chapter was complete garbage, irredeemably awful in everyway.
 

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At least the inclusion of Oob makes Goku's interest in him make a lot more sense if we account for Super's events with all the God powers and shit.
 

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Contrary to most, I enjoyed this chapter. Didn't think it was as bad as the other ones. Taking the arc as a whole in consideration, I think it was a decent wrap up.

I liked that Vegeta used spirit fission again, even though he failed, and using Oob seemed at least cool, even though I don't like the idea of him having God power.

Is Super already near its ending? Seemed to be so to me with the inclusion of Oob... and the possible lack of a next threat. I'm at least a liiitle anxious to the next chapter since I kinda like the aftermatch moments between the crew. Would like to see the Dai Shinkan with Beerus as well.
 
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