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My expectations of the show is extremely low, but not for the manga. Also, it almost time for chapter 23 to be released!
 

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Chapter translation:

Zamasu: Now, mortals, I'll have you pay the price for going against the Gods...
Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Goku: You know, we turned into that as well!
Vegeeta: I... I see... It's the same fusion as Veget.

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Kaioushin: Ohhh, he did it...!?

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Vegeeta: S-shit!
Trunks: D-did he attack just now? I didn't see a thing!
Goku: Damn it... when did he...
Zamasu: So this is the power of the Potara... this is what fusion is like...!

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Goku: Vegeeta.
Vegeeta: What?
Goku: We can also Potara fuse but... what do you want to do?
Vegeeta: You're kidding, right? I thought I said I'll never fuse with you again.
Goku: That's what I thought. I'm sorry, Kaioushin-sama, it is what it is so I'll return them to you. We really want to fight on our own.
Kaioushin: That's... even in a time like this...
Vegeeta: Kakarrot, you stay here and watch. I'll be fighting first.

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Kaioushin: Oh... Back then with Majin Boo... So the fusion broke because of that... It wasn't because of Majin Boo's influence but because of the time...! I didn't know that...
Trunks: I don't understand very well but, anyway, it's fine if it holds for one hour, right? If you need someone to stall for time I can do it.
Vegeeta: What are you saying, Trunks? You stay here!
Trunks: No, I'll also fight. Even if Mai and I are the only ones, it's still our world. There's no way I'll let Father and Goku sacrifice yourselves in this world. This is for my llate Mother's sake as well.
Vegeeta: For Bloomer's sake?

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Trunks: Yes! Father passed away early and Mother, who had to raise me all by herself, looked very lonely. I'd get asked a lot about Father, after I went to the past with the tima machine and met you. In fact, Mother was supposed to come with me to the past if she hadn't been killed by Black. Mother... I wonder if what she actually wanted was to meet Father of the past instead of running away from Black.
Vegeeta: Bloomer...
Trunks: I don't want to keep making Mother feel sad! I won't let Father die here, for the sake of Mother of the past, that is waiting for your return!
Vegeeta: Say those things when you can fight properly on your own!

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Goku: I can't draw out my strength at all... The last senzu... should I eat it?
Vegeeta: Kakarrot!
Goku: What is it, Vegeeta?
Vegeeta: Give it to me!
Goku: What!? Why! Let's decide first who gets to eat the last bean.

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Veget: My name is Veget. I'm a warrior born from the same Potara fusion as you.
Zamasu: Mortals fusing...?
Veget: Could it be you didn't know mortals could fuse as well? Hahaha, no wonder you were laughing that much. In that case, I'll tell you another thing you don't know.
Zamasu: What?
Veget: It seems your Potara fusion will brake in one hour.
Zamasu: What did you say?
Veget: You still haven't become a Kaioushin so you're just like us, mortals.

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Veget: Hey hey, you're forgetting your hands, Zamasu!

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Zamasu: This can't be happening!

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Zamasu: Die and repent your sins, mortal!!!!
Veget: Ha!!!!

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Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Kaioushin: The fusion broke!!!
Trunks: Why!!?
 

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So Vegito just called me a mortal? Because I didn't become a Kaioshin yet and the fact that I was able to travel to the future does implies that Black is a Kaioshin.
 

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So Galu can still hurt Merged Zamasu with his full power blast in the manga :ladd :ladd
 

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Yeah, although I do think Zamasu was holding back there. It's clear fusion isn't as strong as it was pre-super era.
 

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I find it kind of bullshit that Zamasu/Black can travel through time with the time rings but aren't able to permanently fuse in the manga.
 

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Atem King of Niger said:
I find it kind of bullshit that Zamasu/Black can travel through time with the time rings but aren't able to permanently fuse in the manga.

I'm pretty sure only Kaioshin are permitted to use the time rings, but anyone can use it. Zamasu just stole it.
 

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Literally copied every main villain in the manga in one chapter.
 

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Future Warrior said:
Atem King of Niger said:
I find it kind of bullshit that Zamasu/Black can travel through time with the time rings but aren't able to permanently fuse in the manga.

I'm pretty sure only Kaioshin are permitted to use the time rings, but anyone can use it. Zamasu just stole it.

Zamasu stole the Potara as well to gain the right to use it though. Seems like a Kaioshin thing. Although the manga's at least consistent in that in the anime the fusion is permanent even though people could sense base Black and Zamasu's ki without having god ki training.
 

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It seems that Merged Zamasu having only half his body being immortal is a Toei addition. I'm glad honestly. He looked like a monstrosity.
 

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Atem King of Niger said:
Future Warrior said:
Atem King of Niger said:
I find it kind of bullshit that Zamasu/Black can travel through time with the time rings but aren't able to permanently fuse in the manga.

I'm pretty sure only Kaioshin are permitted to use the time rings, but anyone can use it. Zamasu just stole it.

Zamasu stole the Potara as well to gain the right to use it though. Seems like a Kaioshin thing. Although the manga's at least consistent in that in the anime the fusion is permanent even though people could sense base Black and Zamasu's ki without having god ki training.

But then why did Rumoosh die?
 

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Gowasu died the instant Black stabbed him and Rumoosh simultaneously. He wouldn't come back to life just because someone became Kaioshit/gained the Potaras. If it was that easy Whis wouldn't need new recruits to replace Beerus
 

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Aside from Zamasu mimicking the Z villains, I am glad he didn't turns into half a mutant and started to cry. I low key expecting Gogeta to appears to avoid the potara nerf and the time limit, but some dreams are too good to come true.
 

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Considering Toriyama was the guy that said as the original author he can change any detail he wants about the series, I found it unlikely Toei just added that shit in.
 
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