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Being on Imperfect-Cell level can be greatly powered-up.Fearless Boo said:Goku thinks Piccolo has greatly powered up.
Being on Imperfect-Cell level can be greatly powered-up.Fearless Boo said:Goku thinks Piccolo has greatly powered up.
Well after Trunks lose to Cell, Piccolo said he should enter to the ROSAT and trained so that should at least tell us that his motivation is to be on Cell/Trunks league.Fantastische Hure said:Being on Imperfect-Cell level can be greatly powered-up.Fearless Boo said:Goku thinks Piccolo has greatly powered up.
Motivation doesn't mean he achieved it. With how he was seemingly treated, I doubt it sadly.Fearless Boo said:Well after Trunks lose to Cell, Piccolo said he should enter to the ROSAT and trained so that should at least tell us that his motivation is to be on Cell/Trunks league.Fantastische Hure said:Being on Imperfect-Cell level can be greatly powered-up.Fearless Boo said:Goku thinks Piccolo has greatly powered up.
Well that's because Goku stated that Cell is much stronger than the one Trunks fought but if you look at Piccolo's motivation, he was damn sure that he must train as if he can surpass that power or made it there.Fantastische Hure said:Motivation doesn't mean he achieved it. With how he was seemingly treated, I doubt it sadly.Fearless Boo said:Well after Trunks lose to Cell, Piccolo said he should enter to the ROSAT and trained so that should at least tell us that his motivation is to be on Cell/Trunks league.Fantastische Hure said:Being on Imperfect-Cell level can be greatly powered-up.
Pre 2nd RoSaT Vegeta treated Piccolo just like he treated him post RoSaT. Piccolo also didn't bother saying "you want to try me?", like he did around the time Freeza returned.Fearless Boo said:Well that's because Goku stated that Cell is much stronger than the one Trunks fought but if you look at Piccolo's motivation, he was damn sure that he must train as if he can surpass that power or made it there.Fantastische Hure said:Motivation doesn't mean he achieved it. With how he was seemingly treated, I doubt it sadly.Fearless Boo said:Well after Trunks lose to Cell, Piccolo said he should enter to the ROSAT and trained so that should at least tell us that his motivation is to be on Cell/Trunks league.
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Piccolo was obviously supressed and with weights aFantastische Hure said:Pre 2nd RoSaT Vegeta treated Piccolo just like he treated him post RoSaT. Piccolo also didn't bother saying "you want to try me?", like he did around the time Freeza returned.Fearless Boo said:Well that's because Goku stated that Cell is much stronger than the one Trunks fought but if you look at Piccolo's motivation, he was damn sure that he must train as if he can surpass that power or made it there.Fantastische Hure said:Motivation doesn't mean he achieved it. With how he was seemingly treated, I doubt it sadly.
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That's arguing semantics. AT's intention was to clearly show where Piccolo was. If Piccolo could have put Vegeta in his place why didn't he?Fearless Boo said:Piccolo was obviously supressed and with weights aFantastische Hure said:Pre 2nd RoSaT Vegeta treated Piccolo just like he treated him post RoSaT. Piccolo also didn't bother saying "you want to try me?", like he did around the time Freeza returned.Fearless Boo said:Well that's because Goku stated that Cell is much stronger than the one Trunks fought but if you look at Piccolo's motivation, he was damn sure that he must train as if he can surpass that power or made it there.
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lso Vegeta is trash compare to him so why bother?
When did he asked? It was pretty much Tien said he'll pass.Fantastische Hure said:Piccolo also asked Tenshinhan whether he wanted to enter RoSaT. That means Tenshinhan could have surpassed Cell/Trunks Level.
inb4 someone says he didn't want to hurt feelings
He asked. I saw that.Fearless Boo said:When did he asked? It was pretty much Tien said he'll pass.Fantastische Hure said:Piccolo also asked Tenshinhan whether he wanted to enter RoSaT. That means Tenshinhan could have surpassed Cell/Trunks Level.
inb4 someone says he didn't want to hurt feelings
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Even if he did there's a difference. It would be similar how Piccolo asked the humans to train for Androids if they want to not that they can surpass Yadrat Goku. But Piccolo's intention is to fight someone who are monster compared to Trunks and the situation is similar here.
Piccolo's intention was never to fight him according to you. You said Piccolo knew he was useless even before he asked Goku, so what is it?Fearless Boo said:When did he asked? It was pretty much Tien said he'll pass.Fantastische Hure said:Piccolo also asked Tenshinhan whether he wanted to enter RoSaT. That means Tenshinhan could have surpassed Cell/Trunks Level.
inb4 someone says he didn't want to hurt feelings
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Even if he did there's a difference. It would be similar how Piccolo asked the humans to train for Androids if they want to not that they can surpass Yadrat Goku. But Piccolo's intention is to fight someone who are monster compared to Trunks and the situation is similar here.
I checked and couldn't find it unless if you provide it. But it doesn't matter he also asked if the humans want to fight against the Androids knowing that they can't surpass SSjin Goku.Fantastische Hure said:He asked. I saw that.Fearless Boo said:When did he asked? It was pretty much Tien said he'll pass.Fantastische Hure said:Piccolo also asked Tenshinhan whether he wanted to enter RoSaT. That means Tenshinhan could have surpassed Cell/Trunks Level.
inb4 someone says he didn't want to hurt feelings
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Even if he did there's a difference. It would be similar how Piccolo asked the humans to train for Androids if they want to not that they can surpass Yadrat Goku. But Piccolo's intention is to fight someone who are monster compared to Trunks and the situation is similar here.
No, why would Picccolo ask if it would be useless? He clearly think Tenshinhan can surpass Cell/Trunks level.
Herms has it. Please go check yourself.Fearless Boo said:I checked and couldn't find it unless if you provide it. But it doesn't matter he also asked if the humans want to fight against the Androids knowing that they can't surpass SSjin Goku.Fantastische Hure said:He asked. I saw that.Fearless Boo said:When did he asked? It was pretty much Tien said he'll pass.
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Even if he did there's a difference. It would be similar how Piccolo asked the humans to train for Androids if they want to not that they can surpass Yadrat Goku. But Piccolo's intention is to fight someone who are monster compared to Trunks and the situation is similar here.
No, why would Picccolo ask if it would be useless? He clearly think Tenshinhan can surpass Cell/Trunks level.
And you asked why Piccolo would ask if it would be useless, simple because he still didn't surpass 50% Goku who is weaker than Cell who should be stronger than his initial level. More like
Expected Cell > 50% Goku > Piccolo > USSjin3 Trunks > Initial Cell.
I checked then again, there's no quote where Piccolo asked Tien to in the ROSAT except this.Fantastische Hure said:Herms has it. Please go check yourself.Fearless Boo said:I checked and couldn't find it unless if you provide it. But it doesn't matter he also asked if the humans want to fight against the Androids knowing that they can't surpass SSjin Goku.Fantastische Hure said:He asked. I saw that.
No, why would Picccolo ask if it would be useless? He clearly think Tenshinhan can surpass Cell/Trunks level.
And you asked why Piccolo would ask if it would be useless, simple because he still didn't surpass 50% Goku who is weaker than Cell who should be stronger than his initial level. More like
Expected Cell > 50% Goku > Piccolo > USSjin3 Trunks > Initial Cell.
So Piccolo would still be useless regardless, but goes into the RoSaT? hmmmmmm
Doesn't that mean Piccolo didn't need to surpass either Trunks or Cell either. I mean if he can't Goku, then why the other two?
Chapter: 390 (DBZ 196), P14.4
Piccolo (to Goku): “Then use the Room of Spirit and Time again. We’ve got the time. We just decided on the order: I’ll go first, then Vegeta will enter alone…And then Trunks…You two can enter again after that.”
Tenshinhan: “Sorry...But I pass…He’s absolutely not an opponent I could fight…”
That's that.Fearless Boo said:I checked then again, there's no quote where Piccolo asked Tien to in the ROSAT except this.Fantastische Hure said:Herms has it. Please go check yourself.Fearless Boo said:I checked and couldn't find it unless if you provide it. But it doesn't matter he also asked if the humans want to fight against the Androids knowing that they can't surpass SSjin Goku.
And you asked why Piccolo would ask if it would be useless, simple because he still didn't surpass 50% Goku who is weaker than Cell who should be stronger than his initial level. More like
Expected Cell > 50% Goku > Piccolo > USSjin3 Trunks > Initial Cell.
So Piccolo would still be useless regardless, but goes into the RoSaT? hmmmmmm
Doesn't that mean Piccolo didn't need to surpass either Trunks or Cell either. I mean if he can't Goku, then why the other two?
Chapter: 390 (DBZ 196), P14.4
Piccolo (to Goku): “Then use the Room of Spirit and Time again. We’ve got the time. We just decided on the order: I’ll go first, then Vegeta will enter alone…And then Trunks…You two can enter again after that.”
Tenshinhan: “Sorry...But I pass…He’s absolutely not an opponent I could fight…”
Piccolo was sure he needs to enter ROSAT after seeing how Trunks can't beat Cell which implied that he will fight Cell in the tournament. As for later training in ROSAT won't do any good, he can surpass Trunks/Cell but not Goku/Expected Cell.
But that quote doesn't show Piccolo asking Tien except he asked for Goku or Gohan, I think.Fantastische Hure said:That's that.Fearless Boo said:I checked then again, there's no quote where Piccolo asked Tien to in the ROSAT except this.Fantastische Hure said:Herms has it. Please go check yourself.
So Piccolo would still be useless regardless, but goes into the RoSaT? hmmmmmm
Doesn't that mean Piccolo didn't need to surpass either Trunks or Cell either. I mean if he can't Goku, then why the other two?
Chapter: 390 (DBZ 196), P14.4
Piccolo (to Goku): “Then use the Room of Spirit and Time again. We’ve got the time. We just decided on the order: I’ll go first, then Vegeta will enter alone…And then Trunks…You two can enter again after that.”
Tenshinhan: “Sorry...But I pass…He’s absolutely not an opponent I could fight…”
Piccolo was sure he needs to enter ROSAT after seeing how Trunks can't beat Cell which implied that he will fight Cell in the tournament. As for later training in ROSAT won't do any good, he can surpass Trunks/Cell but not Goku/Expected Cell.
Why would Piccolo enter if he can't surpass 50% Goku? It'd be useless regardless, you just proved that point. There's no need for Piccolo to surpass Initial Cell.
So that's your argument for Piccolo being so powerful? He's just not that type of person?Fearless Boo said:But that quote doesn't show Piccolo asking Tien except he asked for Goku or Gohan, I think.Fantastische Hure said:That's that.Fearless Boo said:I checked then again, there's no quote where Piccolo asked Tien to in the ROSAT except this.
Piccolo was sure he needs to enter ROSAT after seeing how Trunks can't beat Cell which implied that he will fight Cell in the tournament. As for later training in ROSAT won't do any good, he can surpass Trunks/Cell but not Goku/Expected Cell.
Why would Piccolo enter if he can't surpass 50% Goku? It'd be useless regardless, you just proved that point. There's no need for Piccolo to surpass Initial Cell.
Well Piccolo is not that type of guy who think it would be useless even if he can reach it. Piccolo has a confidence that he can surpass Cell and Trunks but not Goku.![]()
Yeah, Piccolo knows the Androids are strong enough to destroy Trunks in the future yet he still wanted to train because he doesn't want to die which mean he should train to get stronger and not to get killed. That situation is similar here and that was before Goku showed his 50% power.Fantastische Hure said:So that's your argument for Piccolo being so powerful? He's just not that type of person?Fearless Boo said:But that quote doesn't show Piccolo asking Tien except he asked for Goku or Gohan, I think.Fantastische Hure said:That's that.
Why would Piccolo enter if he can't surpass 50% Goku? It'd be useless regardless, you just proved that point. There's no need for Piccolo to surpass Initial Cell.
Well Piccolo is not that type of guy who think it would be useless even if he can reach it. Piccolo has a confidence that he can surpass Cell and Trunks but not Goku.![]()
I'd say he's not the type of person to enter the RoSaT, if he knows it's useless, but he does anyway so I doubt he surpassed any significant powers. Even Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta treats his power like nothing and that was before even training for the 2nd time in RoSaT.
So he doesn't have to be stronger than anyone? Just powerful enough to be considered on a different level. #16 level at best sounds good to me.Fearless Boo said:Yeah, Piccolo knows the Androids are strong enough to destroy Trunks in the future yet he still wanted to train because he doesn't want to die which mean he should train to get stronger and not to get killed. That situation is similar here and that was before Goku showed his 50% power.Fantastische Hure said:So that's your argument for Piccolo being so powerful? He's just not that type of person?Fearless Boo said:But that quote doesn't show Piccolo asking Tien except he asked for Goku or Gohan, I think.
Well Piccolo is not that type of guy who think it would be useless even if he can reach it. Piccolo has a confidence that he can surpass Cell and Trunks but not Goku.![]()
I'd say he's not the type of person to enter the RoSaT, if he knows it's useless, but he does anyway so I doubt he surpassed any significant powers. Even Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta treats his power like nothing and that was before even training for the 2nd time in RoSaT.
Vegeta's arrogance in this arc is high so juding his reaction is useless, plus I don't think that scene is in manga.
But he was confident on fighting Cell and wanted to in ROSAT first so that should tell us he should be on par or stronger than Trunks/Cell.Fantastische Hure said:So he doesn't have to be stronger than anyone? Just powerful enough to be considered on a different level. #16 level at best sounds good to me.Fearless Boo said:Yeah, Piccolo knows the Androids are strong enough to destroy Trunks in the future yet he still wanted to train because he doesn't want to die which mean he should train to get stronger and not to get killed. That situation is similar here and that was before Goku showed his 50% power.Fantastische Hure said:So that's your argument for Piccolo being so powerful? He's just not that type of person?
I'd say he's not the type of person to enter the RoSaT, if he knows it's useless, but he does anyway so I doubt he surpassed any significant powers. Even Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta treats his power like nothing and that was before even training for the 2nd time in RoSaT.
Vegeta's arrogance in this arc is high so juding his reaction is useless, plus I don't think that scene is in manga.
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