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Frieza's army. Their antagonistic acts were far more widespread, and they'd be unstoppable in the real world.

Android 19 (Initial) vs Mecha Frieza (100%)

- No absorptions
- No strain for Frieza

If Frieza loses, King Cold can help him.
 

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#19 wins both scenarios. I don't see him getting to the level where he could drain enough from Vegeta to make things disadvantageous against Gero if he wasn't at least on Post-Yardrat SSJ Goku's level.

#17 VS #18
- Equal battle powers.
- ToP versions of both.
 

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In addition to having basically all of 18's advantages, 17 has better fighting skills as well as a shield protecting him from all of 18's attacks. A surprise Kienzan is the only way 18 could win.

18 (ToP) VS Good 21
- This is Good 21 right after the split.
 

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Considering SSB Goku being 10x stronger than his U6 Arc self by the time of the ToP and the SSJ multiplier being drastically nerfed, Current Base Goku is likely at least on par with his U6 Arc SSJ self, who Good #21 isn't much stronger than. #18 should have the power advantage, but would still fall victim to #21's hax techniques.

Golden Frost VS Kaioken Blue Goku (U6 Arc)
- Anime scaling for both.
- Frost gets the same boost as FnF Freeza.
- Stamina strain still applies for both.
 

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Golden Frost stomps since I can't see him being less than a tenth of Freeza's power who rivals ToP SSB Goku (Who's stronger than KKx10 SSB Goku U6 arc).

SSB Goku (ToP) vs Merged Zamasu

No grotesque power-up for Zamasu.
 

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I think post-UI Blueku rapes because he shows far better reaction speed, and the beyond-limits KHH Galu fired at MZ seemed already damn near his power anyways. With immortality Zamasu outlasts Goku though.

Grotesque Zamasu vs. Jiren (vs. initial UI Galu)

- assume Vegetto's power was truly retconned to his manga levels to avoid the paradox of SSJ2 Kefla >> Blue Vegetto

- no Infinite Zamasu bullshit for :gay :gay2
 

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:shin still stated that Initial Jiren's power was completely beyond any foe they'd ever faced, so Zamasu still gets stomped regardless. If anything, it'd just mean Vegetto Blue wasn't going all out against :faggots.

Future Super Perfect Cell VS MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
- Future Cell absorbs the twins at the level he was when Trunks killed him. Assume the gap between SPC and his 1st form is the same as in the main timeline.
- Due to being Cell's future self, he doesn't have access to Shunkan Ido.
 

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Jiren is still stronger in virtue of him being stated to be stronger than everyone else way in episode 110. Zamasu would eventually outlast him thanks to his immortality, though.

EDIT: I think Cell takes this.

UI Vegetto's finger flick VS Jiren
- If Jiren dies, Vegetto will reduce his power to 1%.

Can Jiren survive it ?
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
:shin still stated that Initial Jiren's power was completely beyond any foe they'd ever faced, so Zamasu still gets stomped regardless. If anything, it'd just mean Vegetto Blue wasn't going all out against :faggots.

Future Super Perfect Cell VS MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
- Future Cell absorbs the twins at the level he was when Trunks killed him. Assume the gap between SPC and his 1st form is the same as in the main timeline.
- Due to being Cell's future self, he doesn't have access to Shunkan Ido.

Vegetto being unable/unwilling to go full power is actually potentially an interesting theory considering there's no way in hell Halo Zamasu was dozens of times above :gay2 and :gay combined, so it could be said that due to the mass retardation of the end of the FT arc both initial :faggots and Vegetto were nerfed, and Vegetto just couldn't use FP until just before his fusion ran out :troll (thus resulting in his ki punch somehow doing more damage than his Final KHH)

I don't really believe in post-humans Cell being more than double his Gingertown power due to ki blast logic being erratic, so even taking that power up away I'd still probably have him above MSSJ :galu so he wins.

The N word to the woman who raised the Jynx controversy vs. the word NINGEN to :gay in triggering contest :donovan
 

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Probably the woman. Zamasu is the one who use this word, so it doesn't seem to piss him off that much.

UI Vegetto's finger flick VS Jiren
- If Jiren dies, Vegetto will reduce his power to 1%.

Can Jiren survive it ?
 

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1% wouldn't really do jack shit given that Potara in DBS is only tens of times above both fusees combined, so it'd just be like UI Galu finger flicking Jiren. With Vegetto at FP.... dunno. Purely plot related, since Zamasu can easily murder Gowasu but not Mai somehow.

The Jynx controversy vs. The Popo controversy vs.Yamamoto's plagiarism controversy in impact contest
 

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Jynx controversy wins considering Blue Popo was just temporary and the Budokai HD Collection was lazy enough to still credit Yamamoto for the music, rather than either having any minute trace of itself removed after the controversy.

ToP Piccolo VS Basil & Lavender
- Manga versions of all.
 

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Gets stomped by MUI Galu easily. probably can't even defeat initial UI Galu with his crappy time limit in place imo.

Trunks vs. Blue Vegetto in blue hair contest
 

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Idea of Gaslight said:
Gets stomped by MUI Galu easily. probably can't even defeat initial UI Galu with his crappy time limit in place imo.

Trunks vs. Blue Vegetto in blue hair contest
He gets there even with the haxed Anime versions? I'd say so considering the manga retained the original Potara boost. Actually also regular Vegetto >>> Blue Goku and Vegeta in the manga, so yeah.

Trunks wins easily. Blue fits Trunks more than Vegetto. On Vegetto it looks weird and unnatural.

Captain Ginyu vs Zarbon
 

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I assume you mean at equal levels, in which case he still wins due to better ki control and the unpredictability of his body change should he even somehow be on the losing end.

As for Vegetto, I rank him just slightly above Beerus which puts him massively under MUI Galu who completely raped pre-asspull rage hax Jiren who was already above any Hakaishin, so MUI Galu stomps him. And since manga Vegetto's time limit seems even shorter than unmastered UI it's clear he'd get fucked over.

rest of DB Super vs. FT arc in retcons contest
 

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I meant Ginyu in Goku. :king :king :king

Well the anime also has a-lot of Hax, like Kaio-Ken in the Universe 6 tournament or Goku-Black keep getting stronger for no reason or Merged Zamasu somehow getting stronger for no reason.

DragonBall Super Manga Piccolo vs Assault form Frost
 

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Piccolo stomps him. He isn't that far off from Frost's true form in power.

DBS Mai VS Colonel Violet
- Hand to Hand combat.
 

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Just curious, but how strong do you have manga Piccolo and manga Frost in comparison to DBZ's top contenders (SSJ Vegetto and Buuhan)?
 

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