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Cha La Head Ch La is better.

M12 SSjin Gogeta vs Ultimate Gohan I have them equals. Who wins?
 

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If you go by that bullshit :toei chain of Gogeta > Janenba > Hildegarn > SSJ3 Goku > all then Gogeta wins. In canon Gohan likely wins though.

Base Vegetto (current) runs the Super gauntlet

How far does the nigga get?
 

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Considering Goku's grown so strong his PSSB form is vastly above Current Gohan, I'd say he's at bare minimum 3x stronger than before. Assuming Vegeta's progressed just as much from his training, then I'd say Current Base Vegetto would get up to SSBE Vegeta, though he'd only have a chance at winning through outlasting Vegeta's stamina.

Since Pakl ignored it, King Vegeta VS Oozaru Raditz
 

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I'd probably say if you go by Daizenshuu levels then Raditz might have a slight edge in power level. But even if you went by that, going by the fact that King Vegeta can make fake moons in BT3 and most likely the manga continuity as well, he'd have far better ki control and could probably severely damage Raditz with a charged Galick ho or something. I give it to King Vegeta more times than not. If speed isn't equalized, the king stomps.

Kaioken King Vegeta vs. pre-zenkai Namek Vegeta
 

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I'd probably place King Vegeta no higher than 11-12k. The Daizenshuu confirms he was the strongest at the time of his planet's destruction, yet we know his son surpassed him not long after. Even if assuming Vegeta's gains were very limited until Namek due to Freeza not wanting him to grow too strong from high level missions, it would be quite a stretch to place him much higher than around 12k as a child. That said, the prince takes it due a likely power advantage, better display of tactics and not being weighed down by Kaioken's stamina issues.

Kaioken x3 Nail VS Ginyu
- Nail's strain is equivalent to what Galu had with x2 in the Saiyan Arc.
- Ginyu can't use Body Change.
 

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Probably Nail because of superior flight speed

EoGT SSJ2 Vegeta vs. Piccolo (U6 arc)

-assume that Vegeta got a similar power boost to S17 arc Galu from unlocking SSJ4.
 

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If it's Manga Piccolo, Vegeta likely stomps via-scaling from Base Galu's Multi-Galaxy level feat in the S17 Arc. If it's Anime Piccolo, then he oneshots due to the power inflation in the anime making practically anyone who can compete with post-God Base Goku Universe level or at least close to it.

EoZ SS3 Goku VS SS2 Gotenks
 

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Galu only wins if his multipliers aren't nerfed like in Super/GT.

Mecha Freeza vs. Babidi in a manchild contest

(For reference, both guys use boyish ticks to their speech such as "papa" and "boku" despite being many decades or eons old.)
 

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Likely Babidi by virtue of Freeza being implied to be quite young by his race's standards, whereas it's a stretch to say someone 5 million+ years old isn't being in his species' adulthood.

Kami VS BoZ Tenshinhan and Kuririn
- Kikoho is banned.
 

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Probably Kami. Even human Kami was on a completely different level from them in the 23rd and I doubt they caught up to his regular form.

Oozaru Vegeta vs. Imperialdramon Fighter Mode
 

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Depending on the source you go by for scaling, Imperialdramon is anywhere from Continent level/Small Planet level via scaling from his own feats/statements or up to Galaxy level if he scales to some feats such as Vademon sustaining a seemingly galaxy-sized dimension and a novel statement about Etemon absorbing a black hole the size of the Milky Way to reach its final form. Either Vegeta oneshots or gets oneshotted.

Pure Boo VS Ultimate Gohan
- For this scenario, Gohan has no intel on Boo's absorption ability, which is acceptable for victory here, but Gohan is going for the kill. This is Pure Boo after he has copied Kibitoshin's Kai Kai.
 

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I have Vegetto Base (Boo) between Gotenks Boo and Gohan Boo. Therefore Vegetto Base (Boo) wins.

  Ultimate Gohan (Current) vs Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken (ToP)?
 

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That wasn't the current matchup.

Gohan wins due to the fact Goku can't use this pseudo-Kaioken in combat, though Goku would likely be stronger.

Same matchup as my last post.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
That wasn't the current matchup.

Gohan wins due to the fact Goku can't use this pseudo-Kaioken in combat, though Goku would likely be stronger.

Same matchup as my last post.

My sincerest apologies, between opening this post and responding, there were many responses in between.

  I would say Kid Boo would win maybe, considering how confident Gohan is and the latter is not much superior to Sur Kaioshin and the latter was absorbed by Boo.

  Goku PSSJB (Current) vs Vegeta SSJBE (ToP)?

  Both from Manga.
 

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I'd probably say Goku stomps via-scaling from being above someone who got powered up several times after being far stronger than Current Gohan.

M8 Base Broly VS #18
 

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I have Broly Base (M8) between # 17 and # 16. Therefore Broly Base (M8) wins.

  Piccolo (Makankosappo) (Current) vs Vegeta SSJBE (ToP)?

  Both from Manga.

  Which is stronger?
 

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Assuming it's still the 3x amp it once was, then it easily defeats Vegeta if it hits. That's a hefty assumption though as the amp of some techniques are suggested to not be as bloated as they once were, so I'd side with there being more likelihood of Vegeta being stronger.

Bora VS General Blue
- Blue can't use his paralysis technique and Bora lacks his spear.
 

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If this is Bora (Arc Red Patrol) I'd go for General Blue.

  If it's Bora (Arc Piccolo Daimao), he would give it to Bora due to his feat of raising Yayirobe and Goku to a gigantic height. I surely train those 3 years after being killed by Tao Pai Pai.

  Android # 18 (Current) vs Golden Freezer (ToP)?

  Both from Manga.
 

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#18 isn't suggested to have improved as drastically as Piccolo did, her role being minimal and being sidelined by the end of the battle. At best, she would be close ToP #17's level, who ought to still be weaker than ToP Golden Freeza.

Saganbo (1st power up on Earth) VS ToP Gohan, SSJ Kefla and Toppo
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
#18 isn't suggested to have improved as drastically as Piccolo did, her role being minimal and being sidelined by the end of the battle. At best, she would be close ToP #17's level, who ought to still be weaker than ToP Golden Freeza.

Saganbo (1st power up on Earth) VS ToP Gohan, SSJ Kefla and Toppo

Who is Saganbo?
 

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