Yoshi Reads Dragon Ball

[ahill]

Hmm okay. I'd ask you about some of your gaps, but better wait until you finish the saga.

 

[Yoshi]

Lol. I know you can't wait for me to debate again because I was a Neoseeker debater and an Original Shinden member.

I'm just a bit burnt out on Manga too. When I finished Piccolo Daimao, the 23rd, and Saiyajin, I was unusually enthusiastic. Although Freeza is better than all three of those easily.

 

[ahill]

Yeah I want some help with my list and nothing better than a guy who just read the manga and a pretty good debeter.

 

[ahill]

@Yoshi - Is that your list? http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1998928-roronoa-zoros-battle-powers-ignoring-scouters/

 

[Yoshi]

@Yoshi - Is that your list? http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1998928-roronoa-zoros-battle-powers-ignoring-scouters/

Yes actually. LOL.

 

[Yoshi]

Alright, I finished another Volume.

Freeza is a very callous villain, and he first showcased it against Nail. However, it was epic to see him stab Krillin and torment Gohan. Very effective villain.

 

[SSJ2]

How deep into it are you?

 

[Yoshi]

Honestly I could consider myself a Dragon Ball fan again. The Freeza arc is one of the better Arcs in Manga I've read too.

 

[ahill]

Did you finish it?

 

[Yoshi]

Not yet. LOL.

Since you're so enthusiastic about this, I'll read another volume tonight.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I guess it would take you 5 mins [several hours] to just complete SSj Goku Vs Freeza.

 

[ahill]

Finish it?

 

[Yoshi]

I forgot to update this thread. Anyway, I finished the volume I promised to yesterday. I'm out of town with no other volumes though, so I'll finish it when I get back tomorrow.

 

[ahill]

I forgot to update this thread. Anyway, I finished the volume I promised to yesterday. I'm out of town with no other volumes though, so I'll finish it when I get back tomorrow.

Where are you at?

 

[Yoshi]

Volume 27. Goku just used a KK x20 Kamehameha on Freeza.

 

[ahill]

Having read it, what'd be your gap between 3rd form Freeza and Vegeta (post final Zenkai)?

 

[Yoshi]

Piccolo said that Freeza's Final Form made the others look gentle in comparison, although I have a x1.5 gap between Third Form Freeza and Piccolo and it's hard to really analyze powers that are out of your league. Vegeta was also still confident in taking on Final Form Freeza before he picked up his speed. I think it should go like this:

Full Power Second Form Freeza: 1,500,000
Full Power Piccolo: 1,800,000
Third Form Freeza: 2,700,000
Initial Final Form Freeza: 5,400,000
Vegeta: 6,000,000
Warming Up Final Form Freeza: 10,000,000

 

[ahill]

Wow you think the manga really suggests final Zenkai Vegeta being 2x+ > 3rd form Freeza? Viz doesn't mention any speed increase by Freeza.

 

[Yoshi]

Why else would Vegeta be so confident in challenging Freeza initially?

He could also see Freeza's beams and saved Gohan from one while he couldn't tell where Freeza went when he tried attack him.

 

[Nèro]

Piccolo said that Freeza's Final Form made the others look gentle in comparison

I like how Frieza's true/final form is smaller, but yet stronger than his other forms.