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Yeah, just like Zarbon thought about 22k

1,250 seems best, Gohan should be a bit stronger than Raditz. I don't think Raditz used his full power to stop the Kamehameha.

It doesn’t make a lick of sense

TOEI universe has weak planets that’s my theory and I’m sticking to it

Base Piccolo / Super Saiyan Piccolo is the best answer, it fixes everything here. Super Saiyan Trunks > Super Saiyan Piccolo > Base Trunks > Base Piccolo

@Hector Because his strength would allow Goku to spar with a Super Saiyan leveled opponent.

You can convince Chat GPT of either side so saying you convinced AI means nothing.

Base Vegeta > Piccolo W/Weights > Gohan Gohan still has a lot to catch up on. Think of Android 19 part as “Base Piccolo” and Android 20 part as “Super Saiyan Piccolo” with weights having their effect for both variations.

Exactly @ahill1

He didn't need to. Absolutely. Base Goku could have done that to Shin without a doubt.

And he was, just not in power but rank. It’s really all Kami here, Piccolo couldn’t care less about rank.

Why did Goku turn Super Saiyan? We know Shin is nowhere near Dabura or Gohan, survival feats aren’t always power based.

The guidebook is wrong here. Piccolo has no idea about how strong Shin is. The context is key, look at how Shin reacts to Piccolo’s forfeit. I’m telling you guys, Piccolo > Shin is the only way out of the mess that is the Buu Saga. Shin is light years away from Base Saiyan strength, Piccolo...

It’s really such a stupid concept. If Blue is that bad what’s the point of it. It’s so so stupid. My goodness.

How strong do you have Base Vegetto?

Man this thing feels like straight garbage listening to you guys speak about it.

Super Saiyan Blue is only meant to be used like once a day, right?

Videl is by far the weakest character to fly in the series. If she can fly, anyone can.

Bro struggled with the gunmen.

Well yeah, with the upcoming retcon, they probably intend to keep most of it the same I'd bet.