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Pan's age seems to line up with the idea that it's 4-5 years after the Majin Buu Saga.

Trunks doesn't have a hard time catching Cell. He's right there about to catch him in a way reminiscent of Kaioken Goku when he caught Nappa. If not for Vegeta interfering, Trunks would have caught Cell.

Yes, this is a key part of the evidence but there’s generally not one thing that completely solidifies the position. This is certainly one that points in the right direction. With about 4 or 5 statements we can conclude that if Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2, there would be some severe issues with...

Vegeta can use any numbers of ki blast attacks to make a max powered ki blast. Galick Gun is just one of many ways he can achieve the same result.

How big of a boost did you give Goku after the super sacred water?

Android 8 has a human base

Still might not be the case. As Oozaru is a 10x boost, it might end up contradicting things. If Oozaru Fist is the full power of an Oozaru, this would retroactively disregard Piccolo's comment.

Yeah, that's how we use several. Several is generally more than 3, less than 10.

Yeah, but we are looking for the exact Japanese term here. I think this Shuiba thing essentially means "several".

Yeah, I think if you want to see this through, you have to confirm this word is used correctly every time. I doubt it is.

Yup

No. Piccolo was about to beat him, remember?

How many times is this specific term used in the manga? Is this the only two times, or is it used elsewhere? So this isn't essentially a "many times stronger" statement, this is a more specific statement here. What does King Piccolo say about his power of his youth being restored?

Cell said he absorbed too much power in the present timeline. Cell had access to a lot more people in the present timeline, the future timeline had most of humanity killed already. Imperfect Cell Post > Imperfect Cell Future > Androids > Imperfect Cell Pre

Plausible. The first one being the awakening of the power, the second one showcasing the full extent of the power... This is probably as good of justification against Oozaru Fist. Logically a 10x boost would come in awfully handy... Hmm, ok, I'm starting to reconsider... Where is the...

@ahill1 Goku got an omega zenkai and gained 10x the power from his previous power to his suppressed power he initially showcases against King Piccolo. Then we learn he was holding back tremendously. Then he uses a 10x boost on top of all of that for the Oozaru Fist. The 10x boost for Oozaru...

You lost me here. Are you agreeing it is a 10x boost against King Piccolo now?

What is the purpose of using the Oozaru montage then?

This is a great question. Man, I never thought about the ramifications of this. It's one thing to do it in your own mind, but for two people to be doing it together shouldn't be possible. Sheesh. This is a whole topic in itself. Yeah, a real life person is better. But in terms of displaying...

This is called image training. As far as I know, it first occurred when Gohan and Krillen are using image training while on their way to Namek. Image training should be seen as completely legitimate, as in if they were really fighting. There should be no difference.