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Here's one host for the full color manga: https://mangahub.io/manga/dragon-ball-full-color-edition Good source for other material: https://discord.gg/5HuFcx5msE

I'll share tonight guys.

You dropped the ball on this one, good attempt though. Appeal to ridicule right out the gate. 1. Fair point. The narrative doesn't require a zenkai. 2. Then it just means Goku is that much stronger upon returning from Namek. If anything, the Moro saga in DBS confirms that Yardrat training is...

It's called artistic license. Toriyama stated the moon's distance, take it as is.

The movie was great and deserves a sequel.

If the KHH flew straight, and because Roshi is aiming slightly up at the mountain, then the KHH would pass over Earth as the curvature of the planet makes the ground drop below the range of the KHH. Same principle as Vegeta only hitting Cell with the Final Flash. Keep in mind that...

If he was granted new abilities then we should take that as his power was brought to new heights.

But if Baby Vegeta were a league above Goku, "more than an even match" is not as good a description as saying "much stronger." More than an even match sounds like the gap is close with Baby Vegeta somewhat or slightly superior. I think they are rivals.

Wasn't Goku granted extra abilities the first time? @SIAD I'll have to look.

I thought they were closer? IIRC Goku said Baby Vegeta was "more than an even match" for his SSJ3.

What do you mean?

It's in the book, so...

@Super Saiyan That's crazy, I wonder why there is a difference.

I would like to see that.

I'm inspired a bit by non-DB power scalers on youtube, like Comic Books vs The World or Key Issues. They power scale MCU and DCEU among others, focusing on physics types of scaling. So what if we did the same for DB? Ignore not just power levels but power gap logic based on power levels, and...

@SIAD Here you go, GT Perfect Files Volume 1, Page 99: Translation for Episode 37 summary(DeepL link here): 壮絶!!ベビーと悟空ダブルKO! ベビーはブルーツ波でパワー倍増、悟空はパワーをなくし危機に。 地球では超神水による人類浄化が成功!! Sōzetsu! ! Bebī to Gokū daburu KO! Bebī wa burūtsu-ha de pawā baizō, Gokū wa pawā o nakushi kiki ni. Chikyūde wa chō...

Koyama acknowledges Goku's statement of Hatchiyak being "maybe stronger than Broly" without contradicting it, and says Cell would have a close battle with Hatchiyak. Based on the time period, this is of course Movie 8 Broly. Movie 10 Broly and Bio Broly are the ones that are stronger than SSJ3...

I recall something like GGA Baby Vegeta got 2x stronger when his power was restored from the blutz waves, it was in the GT Perfect Files. I'll check later.

Goku is always described as "the strongest saiyan/hero from Earth" even for times in the story that it doesn't make sense. It's a marketing thing. The movies don't follow the arbitrarily rigid structure you want them to. The power scale and timeline is whatever Toei and Koyama want them to be.

Get rekt.