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Saiyans with tails not attacking Freeza in their Oozaru forms is a major authorial oversight. Sure, it won’t look as cool as them attacking in their humanoid forms, but the logistics of it don’t make sense. Why would you ever attack a being like Freeza without being in your strongest form? It...

Vegeta 4,500,000 ~ Final Burst Cannon 6,000,000 Freeza 6,500,000 Vegeta is 69% of Freeza and FBC is 92% of Freeza.

Freeza is massively faster than Vegeta though. It’s not a small jump. Like the speed feats Freeza showed against Vegeta perfectly line up with his power feats. They are identical.

Great work man.

Yeah I have it as a Goku/Cell gap. He’s rivaling Freeza but barely. He can put up a fight. Should be a similar gap to what he showed before against 1st Form Freeza. He has the same exact level of concern and similar levels of cockiness. Sometimes striking and avoiding require varying levels of...

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Hmm, I don't think so. His means of escalation were to use Death Beams, not power-up. I'd say it's more like this. Goku (Actual) > Death Beam > Expected Goku > Freeza He's already using more power via the Death Beam. Goku dodging Freeza and hitting him could indeed be another level of power...

Ok, just read through it. Vegeta tells Freeza not to take Goku lightly, that means Freeza wasn't going full bore yet. It makes perfect sense for Freeza to be using his initial power on Goku in the beginning.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I have it.

So is this after Freeza gets kicked? Does this confirm he was just taking him lightly? I think it's like this... Freeza (Kicking Back FBC) = Warm Up Freeza. I don't think Freeza shows a new level of power until the No Hands segment.

I think Freeza is a bit stronger here, maybe the same as he was before with 1st Form. Vegeta is crapping himself, the legend of the Super Saiyan is what is hyping himself up more than anything. He's definitely a distant rival though. I don't think there's a difference in Freeza's speed and...

That's what I think as well. I want to look into the character reactions to 100% this though. I just want to put this issue completely to bed. The quick escalation of Freeza's power to a little above Goku suggests he's already introduced that power since there's no talk of an amazing power-up...

Right before ToP. Is the statement Vegeta makes to 17. Then within the tournament right after Kefla loses or somewhere around there is when we see them fight the Cell Jrs. I’m just trying to figure out if this is the best Post Rosat placement for them. It probably is Id imagine

I can’t find the thread I had for this where Kyo gave his breakdown of Freeza’s power. I wanted to revisit this one more time. So how strong is Freeza vs Goku initially. The Death Beams and his first strike? Has Freeza reverted his power to his initial power against Vegeta or is he using the...

Any statements suggesting they improved? And by how much?

Yes, but the Jrs were holding back and Vegeta says that Kid Trunks is just as strong as Future Trunks. So it gives us a clearer picture of what’s going on with the boys versus the Cell Jrs. So if the Boys have this power in the Buu Saga, it is probably good to work around that. Going to be...

So we all know Ssj Boys ~ Cell Juniors and Vegeta outright states that CG Trunks = Current Kid Trunks right before ToP. So, does everyone think that this is their Post RoSaT power they had or have they gotten stronger? A little, a lot?

Awesome yeah I’m always learning from your ideas and trying different things out that other do.

This is great. Understanding a fighters expectations can often times be the piece of evidence needed to fully understand the narrative. I always love to see these types of threads and yes I agree with Ssj2 that 35 is probably about right.