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Man, you did a good job of this @GreatSaiyaman123 I'll have to read it again soon.

She's Blue level though, ain't she?

The boys are as strong as Base Future Trunks from the CG. You have them entirely too strong. Buu Saga Gohan is still a beast by CG standards.

@SSJ2 Brother you are being biased. You are nerfing the Base Saiyans man. We gotta accept the facts here, c'mon now. If you want to write your own story, that's fine, but the reality is, Piccolo is trash. We all hate it. It shouldn't be that way, but let's not give in to what should have been...

Piccolo was shocked that Gohan was taken out so easily, establishing himself as superior to Base Gotenks and Majin Buu. He's portrayed in the same outfit as he had on in the Buu Saga and there's no reason to assume anything other than Ultimate power.

Quote? He certainly used it against Beerus.

Exactly. So his Ultimate form required effort to bring back out. As well as in Super Hero, he can't auto engage Ultimate. Showing that there are multiple states. Point being, Gohan cannot access his Ultimate power at RoF and is relegated to a measly base power untrained for like 5 years.

Back in the Buu Saga. He no longer thinks like that. Why do you suppose he went Super Saiyan in the first place to fight Shisami?

Indeed.

Here’s who I would have gone with. 1. Goku 2. Vegeta 3. Freeza 4. Android 17 5. Android 18 6. Majin Buu 7. Gohan 8. Kid Trunks 9. Goten 10. Piccolo The humans definitely shouldn’t be there.

This Gohan doesn't have his Ultimate form. It's just his Base power. Last we saw his peak Base power was his Post Zeta self. He's undoubtedly lost a ton of power. If Base Gohan is 100, how strong is Base RoF Gohan in your opinion?

Ok well there’s levels to weak. RoF Gohan is portrayed to be tremendously weak. Do you think he’s stronger than Buu Saga Gohan? Also that’s simply not true. Ultimate Gohans power is still respected all the way into ToP according to the manga. Ultimate Gohan is probably about as strong as...

Super Saiyan is a 50x boost.

The statement is not based on ki sensing it’s based on the deity of Kaioshin, so it was never a legit power statement to begin with. It’s contradicted by power placements for both parties. Piccolo is at least somewhat relevant to the Base Saiyans, Kaioshin is completely irrelevant.

Oh this is a much stronger point to use. Thanks.

He's depicted as being terribly weak, not even sure if he could turn Super Saiyan. I'd say he's clearly depicted as weaker than Gohan from the Buu Saga. Zeta Gohan would be peak Gohan. He doesn't look anywhere as capable as he was there.

When Sorbet is baffled by the Dragon Team's competence, it is Gohan who Freeza decides to highlight as the one capable of instantaneously defeating the soldiers, not Piccolo. A severely weakened Base Saiyan is portrayed to be superior to Piccolo. RoF Base Gohan > Piccolo tells us all we need to...

How do you explain RoF Base Gohan being stated to be stronger than Piccolo by Freeza?

You don’t go with Base Saiyans > Piccolo?