Gap MSSJ Goku/MSSJ Gohan at Cell Games

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The sad thing is, none of that proves Gohan is stronger. =/

Jesus christ, go fuck yourself.

There's literally a direct statement about gohan's power being #1. You can't fucking weasel out of that one with speed arguments.

Not that any of the other statements do anything else than imply gohan was stronger. I mean really gohan thinking goku's full power was playing around?
 

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why are you guys still wasting your time with tosh? watching a dog hump a couch is more productive than his nonsense
 

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Perhaps you should take it upon yourselves to post more topics then :king
 

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Gohan not being amazed at Goku's performance can be explained by Gohan expecting more from Goku because he's well... Goku.
 

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sei'taer said:
The sad thing is, none of that proves Gohan is stronger. =/

Jesus christ, go fuck yourself.

There's literally a direct statement about gohan's power being #1. You can't fucking weasel out of that one with speed arguments.

Not that any of the other statements do anything else than imply gohan was stronger. I mean really gohan thinking goku's full power was playing around?

These two statements go hand in hand:
Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P10.4, P10.6
Goku: “…Wait for Gohan to get angry…! He’ll…probably…unleash his true power through anger, and suddenly display ferocious strength [ ] …To defeat Cell…The only thing we can do is place our hopes in this power of Gohan’s…”

Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P12.1
Piccolo: “Don’t forget…! Even if his power is #1, he’s still a kid…!”
Goku is counting on Gohan getting angry and Piccolo retorts by explaining that even if his power is #1 (through rage), he's still a kid.

Directly after owning Gohan momentarily, Cell is still more interested in Goku, not Gohan. Then we get the whole story about how Gohan gets angry, et cetera.

So there you go, I took your own #1 statement and turned it completely against you.

rekt and bodied :alex
 

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Papasmurf said:
Perhaps you should take it upon yourselves to post more topics then :king

I've posted far more than my average already.
 

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Regardless of any #1 statements, the title of the chapter where SS Gohan fought Cell is still called "The One Who Surpassed Goku". There isn't any way around that.
 

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Mike said:
Regardless of any #1 statements, the title of the chapter where SS Gohan fought Cell is still called "The One Who Surpassed Goku". There isn't any way around that.
No notion within the Manga backs up that claim. Like-wise, the narrator says certain things that aren't always true because his opinion isn't relevant to the story, this is basic knowledge.

Anything in the actual story over-rides the title or the narrator.

This is basic story telling principal.
 

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kriss- said:
No notion within the Manga backs up that claim. Like-wise, the narrator says certain things that aren't always true because his opinion isn't relevant to the story, this is basic knowledge.
What on Earth does the narrator have to do with the title of a chapter? And when has the narrator ever said anything that isn't true? Now you're just making things up.

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Anything in the actual story over-rides the title or the narrator.
And nothing in the story overrides the title of the chapter...it's only supported by feats and other statements... Just accept the loss, t0sh. You're only making yourself look worse.
 

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The Narrator didn't create the chapter title. AT did. I guess he put that there to fool the readers...:troll
 

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The Narrator didn't create the chapter title. AT did. I guess he put that there to fool the readers...:troll
Anything t0sh doesn't like is there to fool the readers EV. It's a "basic storytelling concept". Duh.
 

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Even if I chose to disregard the argument above I can argue something else completely different: 'The one who surpassed Goku'. This is a verb that relates to an occurrence, aka, something that happened previously; it's a past tense reference to when Gohan surpassed Goku during the battle with Radditz and/or Freeza.

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