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Rumsshi ran through everybody after he paralyzed them with his battle roar. @GreatSaiyaman123 @SIAD I think that's more his fighting style, not his power exactly.

Either 2x because it's basic or 20x to mimic the anime.

How does current Gohan do against the big bad from the tournament? Round 1: Jiren's suppressed power vs SSJBE Vegeta Round 2: Full power Jiren Round 3: "Limits broken" Jiren vs UI Goku If Gohan can't win any rounds, current CSSB Goku can help him.

God Im cumin

Bojack Gohan < CG Gohan CG Trunks < Bojack Trunks CG Vegeta >=< Bojack Vegeta The gap between Trunks and Vegeta would need to be notable at the Cell Games in order to keep the former below the latter.

Until there's a statement or even an implication of that, I'm not going to assume it. Over-complicating things isn't my style. I'm built different. That said, the overwhelming majority of the evidence points to Vegeta stuffing his cock down Goku's throat here. He's the second strongest mortal...

As far as future matches go, I want to see Gohan vs 17 just to get a gist of how big the gap is between them. I know 17 would spam his barrier, but Gohan's ability to deal with that would help decipher the gap. And of course, UI Goku vs Beerus, all-out. But I can wait because I know Goku is...

Hit was going all-out against Jiren, though. Wouldn't Krillin be able to gauge based off that?

Ooh, I like that. Takes statements and feats into consideration, doesn't really make bold assumptions. Feels goooood.

I want to see what goes on in the other universes. I'm tired of Goku and Vegeta with the usual "bad guy arrives, current power/transformation isn't enough, train, get new shit, beat bad guy by some luck" routine. What goes on without the U7 Saiyans clogging the spotlight?

Huh? Rumsshi dodged both cards flung at him and took no damage. It doesn't seem like anyone took damage from Belmod's attack, unlike Rumsshi's battle roar that had everyone frazzled enough to bulldoze through them. I was actually mistakenly thinking of the robot suit god, Mosco. Right before...

She joked about it being obvious based on Champa being a tub of lard, but I don't think it's that cut and dry. Could be a bigger gap than I originally perceived, though.

Beerus has been a destroyer for millions of years while Belmod is relatively new to the job as far as I recall. Champa is implied to be slightly weaker than Beerus due to slacking on his training by Vados. That gap should carry into the god battle royale. Rumsshi is one of the four gods...

The Belmod wank is real. He literally did almost nothing in the fight before playing possum. His special move did no damage to the other gods so what is everyone riding his dick for? According to the story, he's one of the weaker gods. He's inferior to Jiren, who got punked by UI Goku, who's now...

How is this so far? It's only to the point where Vegeta goes to Yardrat and Goku starts training with Merus. Small units for the numbers. Goku ~Base: 1 ~Super Saiyan: 2 ~Super Saiyan 3: 8 ~Super Saiyan God: 32 ~Complete Super Saiyan Blue: 320 Vegeta ~Base: 1 ~Super Saiyan: 2 ~Super Saiyan 2...

They have god ki in them so they should be able to always sense it.

Impossibly correct because I'm following the story. If you can't grasp that, maybe your hand is too full of man ass.

So accept the statement as it is and chew some gum, unless you've got evidence to prove Whis wrong right now.

Wow, you eat ass for ignoring a blatant statement like that. Hyuk hyuk. @Super Saiyan Goku stated Vegeta wasn't losing any power through the switch technique.

I agree with you, meng, and imma let you finish. But didn't Dende say 17 wasn't the same as before? So he had to have been watching at some point.