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Is cirno Hitrule's dupe?

@Cirno777 Thanks. If anything base Vegetto just isn't leagues ahead of Buuhan.

Before Vegetto became SSJ, Buuhan said he wasn't going all out, so he may still be as strong as or stronger than base Vegetto.

I think we've found Koruyssdo's dupe.

@Hitrule You remind me of other agenda scalers. There are specific limits to what is tens or hundreds or thousands in any language. It's like saying the Empire State Building is tens of times taller than a needle. It's a nonsensical comparison of the true amount is so far removed from the...

You don't have to speak it for us to know what you're doing. You should have seen any number of scaling arguments for Buu's absorptions working additively. We know that you know that with base Vegetto millions or billions or more times stronger than base Goku it would sail past any conventional...

You must be one of those people who wants Dragon Ball to outshine other fictional universes so you make an agenda to wank the scaling as much as possible. Since a BP x BP Potara formula would make base Vegetto soar past Buuhan if Buu's absorptions worked additively, you have to cope with an...

I think it is in the "links to guides" threads here. I guess CN means China here.

Using battle power x battle power wouldn't just make base Vegetto Buuhan's level but soar past it many times over. Now that seems like massive cope in order to make Potara BP x BP work. Perhaps you think base Vegetto would be billions and trillion of times base Goku so to make Buuhan compete on...

Haha P falls to the Viz-isms! More fuel for my... project. @LeatherDaddy Dragon Ball CN yes? Isn't this Can't find that "5-10x" statement P is talking about.

In that case just say Gohan was going to try to save the day regardless.

They don't always sense people from long distances. They can but it's not like they have a constant data feed to them. The Z fighters didn't really know how their powers compared in the Buu arc after 7 years of peace for example. Despite the fact that they can sense Mecha Freeza approaching...

Either he didn't know exactly how strong Vegeta was or he was going to try anyway just for the sake of trying to do the right thing.

No it's not. It just means Toyotaro decided to draw him in base. The guide statement for Future Vegeta = Goku is for the TV special. You could segregate that to just be for the special and perhaps the anime too if you wanted to. There was a side story written by Takao Koyama for the Anime...

That's quite the straw to grasp from one image of base Vegeta, which doesn't prove he didn't have SSJ, just that he wasn't in SSJ state at that moment. What weird things happen if Vegeta had SSJ?

Goku x Vegeta, seriously? You do realize that the scaling system changes the outcome of that fusion formula, right? If using battle power x battle power, base Vegetto would be monstrous. Using Kiri x Kiri, not nearly as much. That's why guide stuff like that should be taken as hyperbole...

Doing that theory that Vegeta never got SSJ in the other timeline?

Buff Buu screws up the lore and power scaling monstrously. With his power greater than Super Buu, if Kaioshin absorption works additionally like with mortals, it would mean somehow South Kaioshin was strong enough to free the Z sword but didn't. If it works more exponentially then it's just very...

Goten said facing Mr. Buu was unfair, so with or without DBS retcons, base Goten is far from Mr. Buu's power. Piccolo keeps training and he's at least Buu Saga Goten's rival if not quite superior before the end of Z time skip. With 10 years more training regardless of DBS retcons I say...

That works, thanks. What is that from?