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"I don't know how strong he can get when he gets serious" means that Goku fully expects Cell FP > Current Cell. The Z Fighters should also be taking this as FP Cell > Current Cell. But their lack of surprise seems to indicate they know about this horrible fact already, I believe in Trunks and...

This will be interesting. As great as Ngannou did against Tyson Fury, I have a hard time seeing his follow up with even more success. He did great no doubt, but you gotta think Joshua is just too seasoned to beat. I'm going to go with Joshua here. They really should have made Wilder vs Ngannou...

Sure, but this doesn't mean we don't consider common sense at the beginning of every issue. Sure. Because Cell having far more power in store may not be shocking. Yes, because the narrative is that Goku is their only hope. They are truly banking on Goku to be the answer to their worries. To...

Ok, I think I got this one all figured out. We talked about this in the past but here's the clarification. Freeza seemed to use his "full power" to kick back Vegeta's Final Burst Cannon. Then, I believe he says he will start out gently beating up the Vegeta who had given up, so I think Freeza...

We are debating cartoons. This is not a philosophical debate, appealing to common sense is a reasonable argument. Why would they be of discussion? Do you think Grade 3 Trunks > CG Trunks? If current Cell = Cell who defeated Trunks and Vegeta, Goku's statement outright states that Cell's FP >>...

Why did Goku give Cell a sensu bean?

We know Goku can definitely win if he gets a sensu bean against current Cell.

He's no longer one or two steps ahead of Goku Post Kamehameha. Cell dropped more because he got his head torn off by a Kamehameha, Goku just used it. Cell got damaged a bit more than Goku got drained. I mean, who else would it be? I am the one bringing up the point, aren't I?

I don't think Cell rivals FP Goku, Goku's power has fallen off too far and he's rivaling Cell. I think it's more like this... Cell 110 Goku 100 Cell 82.5 Goku 80 Vegeta 60 Something like that. Cell shouldn't be able to touch FP Goku.

Full Power Goku can easily defeat Current Cell.

They are stated not to be. Vegeta explicitly states Super Saiyan Kid Gohan > Super Saiyan Teen Gohan.

Common sense is not a fallacy, it's common sense. This ain't philosophy, it's cartoons. Ok, so I anticipating wrong. What do you think Krillen means by "He's beyond everyone"? Ok, let's try again. What are you trying to do here?

Which also explains Kaioshin's survival feats. I bet Fat Buu took it easy on Kaioshin because of Dai Kaioshin's influence. The difference between Good Buu and Fat Buu is that Kid Buu's influence is gone. Yes All in all it's a great breakdown. Video worthy I'd say. It's so hard to explain the...

No, the reasonable person standard. In life, we are expected to make reasonable common sense assumptions. We do it all the time, this should be no different. Yes, Krillen says Goku > Everyone. This doesn't mean what you think it does. This means that Krillen is saying Goku CG > Vegeta/Trunks...

It doesn't matter who affirms what. It matters who is going against the grain. The assumption is that Cell = Cell. If you are stating Cell no longer = Cell, then you'd have to prove it.

The burden of proof would have to be on you to prove that. It's assumed Cell is his regular power that he showcased before. How come no one corrected Goku and said, "No Goku, we've already seen Cell showcase much more power"? Oh, absolutely not. Absolutely no one thinks that Cell (Vs...

"There's no telling how strong he can get when he puts his mind to it" That means FP Cell > Current Cell.

Kid Gohan > Teen Gohan > CG Goku Kid Gohan is way above Goku

The statement clearly says that current Cell is nothing to FP Cell and it's said to the group. Yes, Goku is saying Full Power Cell >>> Current Cell.

Steve Simmons, brother. He's saying Expected Cell FP > 100% Goku FP > Current Cell. Everyone knows Cell isn't outputting his all right now.